76 Reply by Nexy

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OK that method takes too long for me and there are several ranges, it takes hours to get past the error blocks while Alcohol/CloneCD only take about 10 minutes. I managed better with Isobuster manually doing seeks from about 200 sectors beyond the last error and back to the last sector after the errors.

I used bus hound to capture what the intelligent error sector scanner does, I can post the log if you want.

I tried to capture what DT does when dumping tages too but they are cloaking it somehow from Bus Hound.

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77 Reply by Nexy

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reentrant wrote:

Use my old tool for this:

http://forum.redump.org/topic/18980/dum … g-protech/

OptiARC seems to give the best results for RingProtech...

PX-716 did better than Optiarc actually , was able to read one more sector without a billion retries.

I'm not sure it's RingProtech at all though, could just be some other error protection.

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78 Reply by Nexy

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I was unable to dump a RingPROTECH disc with DIC, it just hung forever on the errors. I was able to copy the disc easily with Alcohol, although that is not ideal. However I think it's possible to implement the Intelligent Error Scanner it has, CloneCD had it also and was also able to dump the disc.

The game is Ski-Doo X Team Racing (USA)

here is the Alcohol dump log, it seems similar to LaserLock.

####################### Dumping/Recording Progress Log #######################
********* Time stamp of this log file:  8/8/2019 2:13:45 *********
02:13:45 Processor info: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz x 8 (3999MHz)
02:13:45 Disc dumping: (D:) LITE-ON LTR-52246S (1:1)
02:13:46 Reading Mode: RAW Mode , Fast skip error blocks
         Selected reading speed: Maximum
02:13:46 Source Info:  Session: 1, Track: 1, Length: 301.3 MB / 34:16:62
02:13:46 Writing image file: G:\Dumps 2019\UNTITLED016.img
02:13:49 Disc read error at: 242
02:13:51 Disc read error at: 243
02:13:53 Disc read error at: 244
02:14:02 Disc read error at: 245
02:14:08 Disc read error at: 246
02:14:16 Disc read error at: 247
02:14:23 Disc read error at: 248
02:14:29 Disc read error at: 249
02:14:29 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:15:03 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 242, End 307
02:15:06 Disc read error at: 1333
02:15:07 Disc read error at: 1334
02:15:07 Disc read error at: 1335
02:15:08 Disc read error at: 1336
02:15:09 Disc read error at: 1337
02:15:11 Disc read error at: 1338
02:15:12 Disc read error at: 1339
02:15:15 Disc read error at: 1340
02:15:15 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:15:23 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 1333, End 1356
02:15:39 Disc read error at: 9253
02:15:47 Disc read error at: 9254
02:15:52 Disc read error at: 9255
02:16:07 Disc read error at: 9256
02:16:15 Disc read error at: 9257
02:16:21 Disc read error at: 9258
02:16:29 Disc read error at: 9259
02:16:37 Disc read error at: 9260
02:16:37 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:16:53 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 9253, End 9307
02:17:38 Disc read error at: 58545
02:17:39 Disc read error at: 58546
02:17:40 Disc read error at: 58547
02:17:41 Disc read error at: 58548
02:17:43 Disc read error at: 58549
02:17:47 Disc read error at: 58550
02:17:52 Disc read error at: 58551
02:17:59 Disc read error at: 58552
02:17:59 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:18:16 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 58545, End 58808
02:18:18 Disc read error at: 59010
02:18:19 Disc read error at: 59011
02:18:19 Disc read error at: 59012
02:18:20 Disc read error at: 59013
02:18:21 Disc read error at: 59014
02:18:22 Disc read error at: 59015
02:18:23 Disc read error at: 59016
02:18:25 Disc read error at: 59017
02:18:25 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:18:42 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 59010, End 59032
02:18:43 Disc read error at: 59248
02:18:43 Disc read error at: 59249
02:18:44 Disc read error at: 59250
02:18:44 Disc read error at: 59251
02:18:46 Disc read error at: 59449
02:18:47 Disc read error at: 59450
02:18:49 Disc read error at: 59451
02:18:51 Disc read error at: 59452
02:18:54 Disc read error at: 59453
02:18:57 Disc read error at: 59454
02:19:00 Disc read error at: 59455
02:19:03 Disc read error at: 59456
02:19:03 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:19:09 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 59449, End 59706
02:20:07 Disc read error at: 153720
02:20:08 Disc read error at: 153721
02:20:09 Disc read error at: 153722
02:20:10 Disc read error at: 153723
02:20:12 Disc read error at: 153724
02:20:16 Disc read error at: 153725
02:20:19 Disc read error at: 153726
02:20:24 Disc read error at: 153727
02:20:24 Starting Advanced Sector Scanner to scan the bad sector area.
02:20:38 Advanced Sector Scanning finished, Bad Sector Range: Start 153720, End 153757
02:20:39 G:\Dumps 2019\UNTITLED016.ccd: Image file writing completed!
02:20:39 Disc dumping completed!
##############################################################################

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79 Reply by Nexy

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I raise the error retry up to 25000 with my 4x read batch file, so yes it's fine.

Nope, 716 and 760 (and others) just have a firmware bug, most safedisc will work fine but some will fail. This is for CD SafeDisc only. I recommend a PX-W5224TA or Premium 1/2 as these drives can dump all. Keep the 716A for DVD and LaserLock.

We are currently not saving DPM. You can use either Alcohol or Daemon Tools.

These sector protections we are currently trying to find or create a solution for. In the mean time Dameon Tools can dump them for you own use, but the images are encrypted so not useful to us.

What is the problem with SafeDisc DVD?

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80 Reply by Nexy

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Could you also make it so it doesn't abort on C2 errors or a switch for it, sectors may be correctable with ECC.

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81 Reply by Nexy

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If the problem is occurring on a burned CD-R then the problem is likely the disc, pressed discs should not have random data. Probably better to add a switch for the special case.

Are you fixing also P and R-W channels for data/audio discs as well as the Q channel?

Daemon Tools is making working dumps of Tages (DVD and CD) I found after I bought it, but the images are encrypted (not nice of them), so will have to try to reverse engineer this. Hopefully we can find out how they are special and they can be dumped correctly.

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82 Reply by Nexy

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Thanks for the sub channel crc fix.

Any progress on backwards dumping?

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83 Reply by Nexy

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user7 wrote:

"Creating .scm (LBA)   4497/323849 LBA[004498, 0x01192] Detected C2 error 2324 bit
Creating .scm (LBA)   4498/323849 LBA[004499, 0x01193] Detected C2 error 1124 bit
Creating .scm (LBA) 219173/323849
LBA[219174, 0x35826]: Failed to reread because crc16 of subQ is 0. Read back 100 sector
Set the drive speed: 4233KB/sec

LBA[219174, 0x35826]: Failed to reread because crc16 of subQ is 0"


Is dic telling me i should try to redump at a certain drive speed? I got that bolded message when dumping at 8x and 2x

As he told me, use /nq

It's because the SubChannel EOR of Q channel comes out to 0 which it thinks is an error that it cannot fix.

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84 Reply by Nexy

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OK got it to compile, but seems you didn't implement that yet... I need it for XIII and some other stuff.

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85 Reply by Nexy

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So /r only works for audio CD's currently? Your documents should be updated in that case as they say it works for data, which it does not.

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86 Reply by Nexy

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Looks fine to me

REM SESSION 01
FILE "Carnivores (USA) (Track 1).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
REM SESSION 02
FILE "Carnivores (USA) (Track 2).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

I don't necessarily agree with removing the comments, there's no guarantee that standards are used, particularly with PC. Better to futureproof it in my opinion, since it's possible that some protection may put something in a huge pre-gap or something. There's no rule book that says things have to follow standard, they clearly don't on uncountable occasions.

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87 Reply by Nexy

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What version of Visual Studio are you compiling under.

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88 Reply by Nexy

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Better, page shows info now too. Downloaded cue still missing extra REM lines for lead in/out and pregap.

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89 Reply by Nexy

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http://redump.org/disc/63778/

The cue is being accepted now when I edit it, but it's not being parsed by the download script correctly. It's a start though, I put the cue in the comments.

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90 Reply by Nexy

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SmartE sectors seem to have corrupt MSF only, there are no C2 errors when dumping the sectors. I will try also reading these discs backwards to see if there is twin sector protection when it's possible.

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91 Reply by Nexy

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OK so how are we supposed to add new discs then without a cue sheet?

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92 Reply by Nexy

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the /r command is in the audio section in the source instead of the data section, can you fix that? I'm trying to do some backwards dumping of a Tages CD. Could you add that option to DVD as well?

Also the SafeDisc sectors are fully readable other than the byte 312 error, I need to do some test reads of them many times to see if they differ at all, but I think they don't and this is a false error. The EDC/ECC is always showing errors. Only question I have is does the drive make up any data after this byte or is it actually good as well.

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93 Reply by Nexy

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OK, wish you had said so before.

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94 Reply by Nexy

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Any word on that safedisc switch? I would really like to examine these sectors without having to fix the disc offset.

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95 Reply by Nexy

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Carnivores dump info https://drive.google.com/open?id=1yV6DM … LCXj7VMIKt

REM SESSION 01
FILE "Track (Track 1).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
REM LEAD-OUT 01:30:00
REM SESSION 02
REM LEAD-IN 01:00:00
REM PREGAP 00:02:00
FILE "Track (Track 2).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 MODE2/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00

ir0b0t can you add the needed cue handling, multisession seems good enough.

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96 Reply by Nexy

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I will test this now that I have a MS disc, and another on my buy list.

I don't think IsoBuster is any standard as it is just another 3rd party tool, yellow/orange book should be the standard?

.cue is from CDRWin not IsoBuster or some other tool.

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97 Reply by Nexy

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XTac Had same safedisc issue with PX-760a and an OEM version of Need For Speed Porsche 2000. Disc dumped fine with premium.

Not sure if this is DIC or firmware.

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98 Reply by Nexy

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I am unable to locate the Whiplash/VR Soccer disc (concerning to me). This disc will need to be repurchased and dumped.

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99 Reply by Nexy

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I have confirmed that PX-716SA has a firmware bug, FatArnold also has a PX-716A.

Hegemonia dumps fine with 4824TA and 5224TA.

This needs to be noted.

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100 Reply by Nexy

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I'm going to try it with another drive first, I think this is a firmware problem with the 716.

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