>you can order some of them in EU/USA/Japan packaging but they will all be manufactured in the same place, so i guess the home region would take precendent then or as User7 says, 'world'

I really don't understand how this differs from say PC pressed games that might be sent around the world or to different, specific countries.

>So the barcode is Dutch
Same with many Action Replays. Same barcode worldwide, different executeables.

>, the disc was made in Germany.
All PS2 made in Austria, unless you agree all PS2 should be marked as Austrian region, this argument is inconsistent.

>Is this a European release exported to the US, albeit with different packaging?
This package was ONLY sold in USA. So no, it wasn't a "European release" since it was never released in Europe.

I was discussing with Jackal a point of what region should be assigned to entries.

I believe country of manufacturing is a bad way to assign region, example:
https://www.ebay.es/itm/274285642923
"Assembled in Germany" manufactured in Germany, yet Distributed only in Spain. Should this be Germany or Spain? I would think the answer is simple - Spain.

There are countless other examples of games being manufactured in one location, but distributed specifically in others, and they are correctly given the Distribution region.

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An example of contention:
http://redump.org/disc/72412/
This is a USA-exclusive packaging, it was never released in Europe this way - period. Since the disc is region free it likely matches content with the other regional packages. So it would make sense to me mark region as USA (or even possibly World if we want to get ahead of ourselves assume all regions match).

However it's marked as Europe? Why? Because it was manufactured there? If manufacturing was the deciding factor of region, we should mark all PS2 discs as "Austria" region, as that's where they're made. "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire: Irish Edition" region? It should be Austria of course (according to this bad logic).

I rest my case. Jackal asked me to post this for your feedback - what is the rule for regions, where they're made or where they're distributed?

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There's no gameplay difference between cd+g and iktv, it seems like a very arbitrary decision to keep one but not the other.

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>need some additional examination about whether they only play Video CDs or have some basic interactivity as well.

So basically they could have the same game-play functionality of CD-Gs?

I think I'll pass, if no one is going to define rules that universally apply, I'm not going to waste my money to see the category get nuked over a change of heart.

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Madroms wrote:

I think they are not useful for redump.
So what to do with them also ?

That's the broader question. Is "just karaoke" (iKTV / CD-G, etc) a "game" / should we dat it here?

My vote is yes. But I got a feeling it will be up to iRobot. Either way there is no gameplay functionality difference between iKTV and CD-G karaoke, so the decision should be the same on both.

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Fireball pointed out a couple video game-related CD-Gs http://redump.org/disc/23529/ http://redump.org/disc/31953/

They need the subs to properly function, so redump should either add the subs for download or include in the dat.

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I was chatting with Fireball about Karaoke and whether that would fit in here at Redump. While the Kiss-Site has video game functionality (scoring), iKTV and CD-G do not. So if iKTV should be in redump then so should CD-G, they both lack any kind of additional video game functionality (then it goes without saying, that if one of the two should NOT be in redump, then the other one shouldn't either).

Wikipedia: "Karaoke is a type of dining interactive entertainment or video game developed in Japan in which an amateur singer sings along with recorded music (a music video) using a microphone."

IMO this is enough to qualify for me. Thoughts on allowing Karaoke CD-G entries or removing iktv? Executive decision iRobot?

I recently built out the iKTV miss list http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Tao_iKTV_CD
and noticed many discs are super cheap on eBay. So I'd like some clarification on this before I buy any for Redump.

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dic crashing on a press disc dvd-r that isobuster dumps fine

logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1O8K0ft … sp=sharing

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PS4 kiosk disc seems to not want to dump properly, possibly related to the recent blu-ray updates? https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tPbF98 … sp=sharing

You're now responsible for buying all of those smile

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YiWLN_ … sp=sharing

I got 75 errors but no c2 errors dumping with the latest build, is this okay?

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user7 wrote:

Does dumping now check for a leadout before initiating?

LBA[323849, 0x4f109]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingReadInOut][L:701]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 04, f1, 09, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00
dwBufSize: 2352
This drive can't read the lead-out

I used to be able to partial dump the scm for discs where label covers data (example): https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Qf4AAOSw … -l1600.jpg

Can this feature be re-added? It is important for dozens of PS2 unlicensed discs.

Still having issue with latest test version. Possible to add disable checking for lead out?

Add "Press Kit" to Common editions/releases checkbox for PC. No point in me having to type it out for the thousandth time.

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Does dumping now check for a leadout before initiating?

LBA[323849, 0x4f109]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingReadInOut][L:701]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 04, f1, 09, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00
dwBufSize: 2352
This drive can't read the lead-out

I used to be able to partial dump the scm for discs where label covers data (example): https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Qf4AAOSw … -l1600.jpg

Can this feature be re-added? It is important for dozens of PS2 unlicensed discs.

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dumps matched, logs for reference: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1uDWFeG … sp=sharing

Thank you!

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sarami, i believe the ability to properly dump PS2 unlicensed discs has once again regressed. Everytime I dump I get a different hash. This issue seems to get fixed and regress once a year for the past few years.

Dumped with different newer versions of DIC including latest stable and latest test (logs): https://drive.google.com/file/d/15XIhk_ … sp=sharing

Please have a look when you get the chance. Many thanks.

Make sure you get a refund.

Also reminder that bad/cheap USB adapters will fry your disc drives. This happened to a few of my plextors before I caught on (because they would work sometimes then randomly fry them later).

Australia / New Zealand would be a neat dual region. Especially for instances like this: http://redump.org/disc/69035/

http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … ping_Guide

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nope hmm https://drive.google.com/file/d/1h03hql … sp=sharing

Here is the disc for sale in Japan: https://www.ebay.com/itm/362614965991

I am happy to do more tests.

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user7 wrote:

Trying to dump a multisession CD-Rom "Enhanced CD" on my Plextor 755A:

This drive doesn't support [OpCode: 0xd8, C2flag: 0, SubCode: 8]

C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs>DiscImageCreator.exe cd z TOS.bin 48 /c2 /ms
AppVersion
        x86, AnsiBuild, 20200120 184236
/c2 val1 is omitted. set [4000]
/c2 val2 is omitted. set [0]
CurrentDirectory
        C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs
WorkingPath
         Argument: TOS.bin
         FullPath: C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs\TOS.bin
            Drive: C:
        Directory: \Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs\
         Filename: TOS
        Extension: .bin
StartTime: 2020/01/27(Mon) 21:43:59
Set the drive speed: 8467KB/sec
LBA[000000, 0000000]: [F:ExecCheckingByteOrder][L:1518]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 01, 08, 00
dwBufSize: 2742
This drive doesn't support [OpCode: 0xd8, C2flag: 0, SubCode: 8]
[WARNING] This drive doesn't support reporting C2 error. Disabled /c2
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 0]
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 1]
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 2]
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 8]
Checking reading lead-out -> OK
LBA[000000, 0000000]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingSubQAdr][L:747]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
LBA[003608, 0x00e18]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingSubQAdr][L:747]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 0e, 18, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
LBA[007739, 0x01e3b]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingSubQAdr][L:747]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 1e, 3b, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
Checking SubQ adr (Track)  5/ 5
Checking SubRtoW (Track)  5/ 5
LBA[035880, 0x08c28]: [F:ReadDirectoryRecordDetail][L:130]
        Opcode: 0xa8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-11-05 = MEDIUM_ERROR - L-EC UNCORRECTABLE ERROR
lpCmd: a8, 00, 00, 00, 8c, 28, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00
dwBufSize: 2048

Set OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 2(Pack)
LBA[-00001, 0xffffffff]: [F:ReadCDAll][L:870]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, ff, ff, ff, ff, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
EndTime: 2020/01/27(Mon) 21:50:29

C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs>

logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IpQx0a … sp=sharing

HALP PLZ

antimatter wrote:

i also cant seem to uncheck the use sector mapper (xbox One)

can only be checked/unchecked with OG Xbox disc inserted.

Just to clarify for the wiki. Does this have any effect on dumping X360 discs, whether it's checked or unchecked?

http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … ping_Guide

A read error should occur shortly after starting the dump. This is normal. Check the box "Apply zero fill to all remaining sector errors." and click the "Zero-Fill Sector(s)" button.

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Trying to dump a multisession CD-Rom "Enhanced CD" on my Plextor 755A:

This drive doesn't support [OpCode: 0xd8, C2flag: 0, SubCode: 8]

C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs>DiscImageCreator.exe cd z TOS.bin 48 /c2 /ms
AppVersion
        x86, AnsiBuild, 20200120 184236
/c2 val1 is omitted. set [4000]
/c2 val2 is omitted. set [0]
CurrentDirectory
        C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs
WorkingPath
         Argument: TOS.bin
         FullPath: C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs\TOS.bin
            Drive: C:
        Directory: \Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs\
         Filename: TOS
        Extension: .bin
StartTime: 2020/01/27(Mon) 21:43:59
Set the drive speed: 8467KB/sec
LBA[000000, 0000000]: [F:ExecCheckingByteOrder][L:1518]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 01, 08, 00
dwBufSize: 2742
This drive doesn't support [OpCode: 0xd8, C2flag: 0, SubCode: 8]
[WARNING] This drive doesn't support reporting C2 error. Disabled /c2
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 0]
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 1]
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 2]
This drive supports [OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 8]
Checking reading lead-out -> OK
LBA[000000, 0000000]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingSubQAdr][L:747]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
LBA[003608, 0x00e18]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingSubQAdr][L:747]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 0e, 18, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
LBA[007739, 0x01e3b]: [F:ReadCDForCheckingSubQAdr][L:747]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, 00, 00, 1e, 3b, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
Checking SubQ adr (Track)  5/ 5
Checking SubRtoW (Track)  5/ 5
LBA[035880, 0x08c28]: [F:ReadDirectoryRecordDetail][L:130]
        Opcode: 0xa8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-11-05 = MEDIUM_ERROR - L-EC UNCORRECTABLE ERROR
lpCmd: a8, 00, 00, 00, 8c, 28, 00, 00, 00, 01, 00, 00
dwBufSize: 2048

Set OpCode: 0xd8, SubCode: 2(Pack)
LBA[-00001, 0xffffffff]: [F:ReadCDAll][L:870]
        Opcode: 0xd8
        ScsiStatus: 0x02 = CHECK_CONDITION
        SenseData Key-Asc-Ascq: 03-02-8d = MEDIUM_ERROR - VENDOR UNIQUE ERROR
lpCmd: d8, 00, ff, ff, ff, ff, 00, 00, 00, 02, 02, 00
dwBufSize: 4896
EndTime: 2020/01/27(Mon) 21:50:29

C:\Users\nunya\OneDrive\Desktop\Vidya Games\DICUI_1.15-net472\Programs>

logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IpQx0a … sp=sharing

This doesn't answer your question but many of us are using internal drives but with a USB adapter. Here are recommended brands/models. Check your localized Amazon for a cheaper price:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0019HLE7Q


Avoid other brands / models.