No problem, you can still use it to dump 3-track-games. Just make sure to dump track02 separately on a PC drive using EAC with offset correction (and add 352800 bytes of 0x00 to the beginning of the file afterwards). You should be able to match redump's dumps then smile

DC drive is a modified Yamaha 400R (as long as I remember it has a different chip so it can read gdroms), I don't know its read offset

Please don't take dumpcast db for redump db, gaps from dumpcast are all wrong and bad. Here is Redump and not dumpcast.

We don't need to dump gaps on the fly or any offset for HD area*, if the author of dcsdrip (or someone else, I don't see any source code on his website http://f17.aaa.livedoor.jp/~takotako/dc … p#dcsdrip) can modify this prog to read data from sector to sector in raw audio (one single audio mode file for all HD area data - sector 44990-549150 -**, the same we do on PC with cdrwin), we can use it to get right tracks from HD area using ICE.

*When cdrwin dumps HD area in audio mode it has only the drive read offset correction, then is ICE that scramble and splits the tracks. SD area can be dumped on any pc drive.

** it's sector 45000-549150, but because some discs have negative offset it's better to dump 10 more sectors before HD area default start.

My patch requests thread
--------------------------------

TailS... I found it, please ask jj1odm if he can add an option to dump HD (high density) area in raw audio (like it was a big single audio track, all data will be scrambled) so we can verify what I said above. Show him how it works (guide above) with cdrwin, he should understand what I mean.

My patch requests thread
--------------------------------

Any news?

My patch requests thread
--------------------------------

I'm still waiting for a new poc release…

SDRip : Still no news from he, he says me that parallel ripper (from him) have option to dump entire hd part in 1 file but I didn't have it for testing.
I've got several question about dreamcast dumping :
I've got several undumped games. I'm trying to do all I can to dump them but sometimes, ripping from SH-D162D gave a fews ice errors (sometimes on audio track (for games I can compare to redump)), sometimes on data tracks).
I have done with success modification on audio tracks from sdrip to be according to redump.
So : Can I add to redump database games that aren't fully dumped by SH-D162D (if I do the dump 3 or 4 times from sdrip corrected and SH-D162D) ?

Any recommendations for a commandline replacement for cdrwin? Something that can take its place dumping scrambled sector ranges. That way you could get the image in multiple sector ranges with a batch file and stitch it together. Read errors wouldn't be so painful then.

It seems like the commandline cdrwin tools are able to do the job (in particular, CDCLIP.EXE), but you need to pay for it.

PS3Dec (decrypt ps3 images), PS3DumpCheck (check integrity), GetKey (dump PS3 metadata), DatSplit (split redump dats), GPack (compress related images together)

33 (edited by pablogm123 2012-07-31 17:26:54)

I have redumped my Guilty Gear X game using the PX-W4824TU (a external W4824TA) ejecting tray by the emergency hole and starstop.exe, and everything has gone flawlessly at 4x speed, 0 C2 errors. I have dumped a sub file of high density zone which proves that last data track has a pregap of 225 sectors, 75 marked as audio + 150 marked as data. Pregaps are Sony style (i.e. a pregap of 150 sectos is encoded as 1.74-0.00, not 2.00-0.01, Philips style).

http://www.mediafire.com/?dq38isxqs68nz5a

PS: It is possible to run px_d8 to determinate offset correction of HD area, for example:

C:\Documents and Settings\Pablo>px_d8 h: 45000
Sector: 45000
MSF: 10:02:01
Combined offset: -736 bytes / -184 samples
On semi-vacation. MSF/AMSF to LBA/offset and viceversa calculator: link
To write properly occidental characters contained in japanese titles: screenshot
Spaces must be the fullwidth variant: link / screenshot

iR0b0t, please move my Plextor PX-708A entry to the supported drives list. I tested it some more and got it to work repeatedly. I also retested my ASUS and got it to work a little bit, but now I can't get it to work again.

PS: Just a note for anyone dumping GD-ROMs. Make sure you dump the disc at least twice for new dumps and don't rely on the ice output to tell you if something is bad. For one verification I did the first time I dumped the disc it didn't match but ice didn't report any errors. The disc is a little bit scratched, so I had to use DCdumper to dump it successfully.

35 (edited by pablogm123 2013-07-26 13:57:59)

The original dctools.rar file was preserved by archive.org

http://web.archive.org/web/20121116094435/http://vigi.dremora.com/dctools.rar

Mirror I have created:

http://www.mediafire.com/?2qk7vtnjt9w6p7c
On semi-vacation. MSF/AMSF to LBA/offset and viceversa calculator: link
To write properly occidental characters contained in japanese titles: screenshot
Spaces must be the fullwidth variant: link / screenshot

http://www.mediafire.com/file/g02374d32 … v1.5.1.zip -- anyone to test? smile

37 (edited by pablogm123 2013-08-09 02:05:21)

Tested. Can open a DC dump and shows the files. However cannot extract the files, I get this message and extracted files are fully zeroed:

---------------------------
Error in Application
---------------------------
An unexpected error occurred.
---------------------------
OK   
---------------------------


And tested the GDDAtoWAV converter. Missing last 352800 bytes, converted files are truncated. Perhaps this function was designed without taking into account that redump appends gaps to next track, not to previous track.

On semi-vacation. MSF/AMSF to LBA/offset and viceversa calculator: link
To write properly occidental characters contained in japanese titles: screenshot
Spaces must be the fullwidth variant: link / screenshot

Can't cdmage do the same already? if you load it with a custom .cue?

Yes, I have checked that and CDmage can open the high density dump through cue generated by ice.exe, if you delete the track 01/02 entries and add a 10 min pregap for track 03.

On semi-vacation. MSF/AMSF to LBA/offset and viceversa calculator: link
To write properly occidental characters contained in japanese titles: screenshot
Spaces must be the fullwidth variant: link / screenshot

Anyone have a link to DCTools?

I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Warrior wrote:

Anyone have a link to DCTools?

I can't seem to find it anywhere.

http://forum.redump.org/post/44347/#p44347

Thanks a bunch sarami, I thought that was a link I checked already. smile

I recently picked up a Lite-On SOHD-167T but CD Tools gives me a CIRC error every time I've attempted to make an image and DCDumper gives me nonstop read errors.

If I'm understanding the guide on Wiki correctly I'm to do the following for method C:
Run CD Tool
Insert trap CD
Run startstop
Pin eject and replace with DC game
Make image with CD Tool as per specified settings.

Am I doing something wrong here? Is removing the cover a requirement for this drive?

44 (edited by user7 2018-02-10 20:34:30)

Is this currently the best guide for dumping GD-Roms? In the DIC thread it says it's a supported format, so is DIC better to dump than the methods in this thread?

Please advise as I have a Dreamcast collector friend that might be interested in helping. Thanks smile

Hello,

I am just starting with trying to dump my dreamcast games.
Im using a PX-706A to dump the LD, and a SH-D162C to dump the HD part of the disk.

But I get a lot of non match, it has been trying for almost 10 hours now. and this is the log below.

Im I doing something wrong or is the laser bad ?

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 1 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Initial dump.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Initial dump.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Initial dump.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Initial dump.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Initial dump.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Initial dump.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Initial dump.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Initial dump.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Initial dump.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Initial dump.
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - Initial dump.
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Initial dump.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Initial dump.
Reading section 14: 178747-189035 - Initial dump.
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Initial dump.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Initial dump.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Initial dump.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Initial dump.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Initial dump.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Initial dump.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Initial dump.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Initial dump.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Initial dump.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Initial dump.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Initial dump.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Initial dump.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Initial dump.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Initial dump.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Initial dump.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Initial dump.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Initial dump.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Initial dump.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Initial dump.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Initial dump.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Initial dump.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - Initial dump.
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - Initial dump.
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - Initial dump.
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - Initial dump.
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - Initial dump.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 2 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Non-Match.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Non-Match.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Non-Match.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Non-Match.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Non-Match.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Non-Match.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Non-Match.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Non-Match.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Non-Match.
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - Non-Match.
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Non-Match.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Non-Match.
Reading section 14: 178747-189035 - Non-Match.
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Non-Match.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Non-Match.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Non-Match.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Non-Match.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Non-Match.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Non-Match.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Non-Match.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Non-Match.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Non-Match.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Non-Match.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Non-Match.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Non-Match.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Non-Match.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Non-Match.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Non-Match.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Non-Match.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Non-Match.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Non-Match.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Non-Match.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Non-Match.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - Non-Match.
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - Non-Match.
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - Non-Match.
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - Non-Match.
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 3 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Non-Match.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Non-Match.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Non-Match.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Non-Match.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Non-Match.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Non-Match.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Non-Match.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Non-Match.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Non-Match.
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - Non-Match.
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Non-Match.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Non-Match.
Reading section 14: 178747-189035 - Non-Match.
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Non-Match.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Non-Match.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Non-Match.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Non-Match.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Non-Match.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Non-Match.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Non-Match.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Non-Match.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Non-Match.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Non-Match.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Non-Match.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Non-Match.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Non-Match.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Non-Match.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Non-Match.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Non-Match.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Non-Match.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Non-Match.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Non-Match.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Non-Match.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - Non-Match.
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - Non-Match.
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - Non-Match.
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - Non-Match.
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 4 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Non-Match.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Non-Match.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Non-Match.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Non-Match.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Non-Match.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Non-Match.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Non-Match.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Non-Match.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Non-Match.
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - Non-Match.
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Non-Match.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Non-Match.
Reading section 14: 178747-189035 - MATCH: 019dbd97d55c4d5c13eb40e9ed54250b
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Non-Match.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Non-Match.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Non-Match.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Non-Match.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Non-Match.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Non-Match.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Non-Match.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Non-Match.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Non-Match.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Non-Match.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Non-Match.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Non-Match.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Non-Match.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Non-Match.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Non-Match.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Non-Match.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Non-Match.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Non-Match.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Non-Match.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Non-Match.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - Non-Match.
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - Non-Match.
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - Non-Match.
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - Non-Match.
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 5 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Non-Match.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Non-Match.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Non-Match.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Non-Match.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Non-Match.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Non-Match.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Non-Match.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Non-Match.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Non-Match.
Reading section 11: 147880-158168 - MATCH: b4d91a7b835c619f9195dd9191d4054e
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Non-Match.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Non-Match.
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Non-Match.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Non-Match.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Non-Match.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Non-Match.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Non-Match.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Non-Match.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Non-Match.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Non-Match.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Non-Match.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Non-Match.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Non-Match.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Non-Match.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Non-Match.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Non-Match.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Non-Match.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Non-Match.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Non-Match.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Non-Match.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Non-Match.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Non-Match.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393 - Non-Match.
Reading section 37: 415394-425682 - Non-Match.
Reading section 38: 425683-435971 - Non-Match.
Reading section 39: 435972-446260 - Non-Match.
Reading section 40: 446261-549150 - Non-Match.

..................:::::::::::::::: PASS 6 ::::::::::::::::..................
Reading section 1: 044990-055278 - Non-Match.
Reading section 2: 055279-065567 - Non-Match.
Reading section 3: 065568-075856 - Non-Match.
Reading section 4: 075857-086145 - Non-Match.
Reading section 5: 086146-096434 - Non-Match.
Reading section 6: 096435-106723 - Non-Match.
Reading section 7: 106724-117012 - Non-Match.
Reading section 8: 117013-127301 - Non-Match.
Reading section 9: 127302-137590 - Non-Match.
Reading section 10: 137591-147879 - Non-Match.
Reading section 12: 158169-168457 - Non-Match.
Reading section 13: 168458-178746 - Non-Match.
Reading section 15: 189036-199324 - Non-Match.
Reading section 16: 199325-209613 - Non-Match.
Reading section 17: 209614-219902 - Non-Match.
Reading section 18: 219903-230191 - Non-Match.
Reading section 19: 230192-240480 - Non-Match.
Reading section 20: 240481-250769 - Non-Match.
Reading section 21: 250770-261058 - Non-Match.
Reading section 22: 261059-271347 - Non-Match.
Reading section 23: 271348-281636 - Non-Match.
Reading section 24: 281637-291925 - Non-Match.
Reading section 25: 291926-302214 - Non-Match.
Reading section 26: 302215-312503 - Non-Match.
Reading section 27: 312504-322792 - Non-Match.
Reading section 28: 322793-333081 - Non-Match.
Reading section 29: 333082-343370 - Non-Match.
Reading section 30: 343371-353659 - Non-Match.
Reading section 31: 353660-363948 - Non-Match.
Reading section 32: 363949-374237 - Non-Match.
Reading section 33: 374238-384526 - Non-Match.
Reading section 34: 384527-394815 - Non-Match.
Reading section 35: 394816-405104 - Non-Match.
Reading section 36: 405105-415393

Yes, this is abnormally many non-matches.
It *is* hard to match sections (with 1 and 40 being the worst), but normally at the second pass you should be getting at least 10-15 sessions matching with any good quality disc, potentially even more. And the entire disc matched within about 10 passes in most cases with disc in good condition.
We have seen cases with erratic behavior like that, where it proved better to stop and start the dumping from scratch. Ie eject disc, redo the trap disc and start again). As a rule of thumb, any dump that is going on for more than 1.30-2 hours, will never complete properly or will turn out bad even if matches found.
If your drive still behaves like that after some tries, adjusting the pot with help of a multimeter should be a last resort measure before declaring the drive bad.

Maddog wrote:

Yes, this is abnormally many non-matches.
It *is* hard to match sections (with 1 and 40 being the worst), but normally at the second pass you should be getting at least 10-15 sessions matching with any good quality disc, potentially even more. And the entire disc matched within about 10 passes in most cases with disc in good condition.
We have seen cases with erratic behavior like that, where it proved better to stop and start the dumping from scratch. Ie eject disc, redo the trap disc and start again). As a rule of thumb, any dump that is going on for more than 1.30-2 hours, will never complete properly or will turn out bad even if matches found.
If your drive still behaves like that after some tries, adjusting the pot with help of a multimeter should be a last resort measure before declaring the drive bad.


Hello maddog thanks for the quick replay,
I have cleaned the laser and will try again,

I have one other question, what is the difference between dumping the disc on PC and on the dreamcast with GD ripper ?

Nextria wrote:

I have one other question, what is the difference between dumping the disc on PC and on the dreamcast with GD ripper ?

Dumping on Dreamcast omits certain pregap sectors (only affects the discs with more than 1 track in HD area), also it seems the GD ripping tool doesn't recheck the dumped data, so you need to dump every disc multiple times to ensure its data consistency. Also, some of Dreamcast drives seem to be unsuitable for dumping (they produce weird errors in data and also have an unusual read offset).

F1ReB4LL wrote:
Nextria wrote:

I have one other question, what is the difference between dumping the disc on PC and on the dreamcast with GD ripper ?

Dumping on Dreamcast omits certain pregap sectors (only affects the discs with more than 1 track in HD area), also it seems the GD ripping tool doesn't recheck the dumped data, so you need to dump every disc multiple times to ensure its data consistency. Also, some of Dreamcast drives seem to be unsuitable for dumping (they produce weird errors in data and also have an unusual read offset).


Okay so the best way is on a pc. What drive is the best to use ?

Nextria wrote:

Okay so the best way is on a pc. What drive is the best to use ?

The ones listed in the 2nd post of this thread.