also when in pause, Q-FRAME would usually go like this
74 73 72..03 02 01 [00] 74 73...
but in some cases ther's 2 F=00 frames
74 73 72..03 02 01 [00 00] 74 73
so EAC would for some reason excluded those additional 00 frames from math
and determine pause to be smaller than it is (TJCD9002 Super Albatross: T2:EAC=2.73/should be 3.00)
i'll post this on EAC forum, maybe they can fix it or explain algorithms, maybe there is a reason but unlikely

sometimes  EAC would get a strange gap layout again. all close to 0 except for those wraping data tracks. for example TJCD0007 Death Bringer:
Track|Gap
01    |02:00
02    |03:00 <=data
03    |02:00
04    |00:00
05    |00:02
06    |00:01
07    |00:02
08    |00:01
09    |00:00
10    |00:01
11    |00:01
12    |00:00
....
and so this is what's going on in subchannel:

Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 10382 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   03      01    00    18      46     00     02     20       31    7ff2 
 10383 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   03      01    00    18      47     00     02     20       32    e5c0 
 10384 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   03      01    00    18      48     00     02     20       33    9018 
!10385!ffffffffffffffffffffffff        !0         !1  !03     !01   !00   !18     !49    !00    !02    !20      !34   !4aae 
 10386 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   04      01    00    00      00     00     02     20       35    45f6 
 10387 000000000000000000000000         0          1   04      01    00    00      01     00     02     20       36    dfc4 
 10388 000000000000000000000000         0          1   04      01    00    00      02     00     02     20       37    2137
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 15614 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   04      01    01    09      53     00     03     30       13    3e72 
 15615 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   04      01    01    09      54     00     03     30       14    2941 
 15616 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   05      01    00    00      00     00     03     30       15    bef4 
!15617!000000000000000000000000        !0         !1  !05     !01   !00   !00     !01    !00    !03    !30      !16   !24c6 
 15618 000000000000000000000000         0          1   05      01    00    00      02     00     03     30       17    da35
 15619 000000000000000000000000         0          1   05      01    00    00      03     00     03     30       18    818b 
 15620 000000000000000000000000         0          1   05      01    00    00      04     00     03     30       19    f67e
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 16374 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   05      01    00    10      08     00     03     40       23    f891 
 16375 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   05      01    00    10      09     00     03     40       24    2227 
 16376 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   06      01    00    00      00     00     03     40       25    adba 
!16377!000000000000000000000000        !0         !2  !00     !00   !00   !00     !00    !00    !00    !00      !26   !65d1 
 16378 000000000000000000000000         0          1   06      01    00    00      02     00     03     40       27    c97b 
 16379 000000000000000000000000         0          1   06      01    00    00      03     00     03     40       28    92c5 
 16380 000000000000000000000000         0          1   06      01    00    00      04     00     03     40       29    e530 
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 21794 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   06      01    01    12      18     00     04     52       43    6e89 
 21795 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   06      01    01    12      19     00     04     52       44    b43f 
 21796 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   07      01    00    00      00     00     04     52       45    cabe 
!21797!000000000000000000000000        !0         !1  !07     !01   !00   !00     !01    !00    !04    !52      !46   !508c 
 21798 000000000000000000000000         0          1   07      01    00    00      02     00     04     52       47    ae7f 
 21799 000000000000000000000000         0          1   07      01    00    00      03     00     04     52       48    f5c1 
 21800 000000000000000000000000         0          1   07      01    00    00      04     00     04     52       49    8234 
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 28496 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   07      01    01    29      25     00     06     21       70    714a 
 28497 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   07      01    01    29      26     00     06     21       71    8fb9 
 28498 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   07      01    01    29      27     00     06     21       72    158b 
!28499!ffffffffffffffffffffffff        !0         !1  !08     !01   !00   !00     !00    !00    !06    !21      !73   !3715 
 28500 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      01    00    00      01     00     06     21       74    eda3 
 28501 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      01    00    00      02     00     06     22       00    6831 
 28502 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      01    00    00      03     00     06     22       01    d241 
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 30342 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      01    00    24      43     00     06     46       41    7faa 
 30343 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      01    00    24      44     00     06     46       42    281d 
 30344 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      01    00    24      45     00     06     46       43    926d 
!30345!ffffffffffffffffffffffff        !0         !1  !08     !01   !00   !24     !46    !00    !06    !46      !44   !0c58 
 30346 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   09      01    00    00      00     00     06     46       45    181e 
 30347 000000000000000000000000         0          1   09      01    00    00      01     00     06     46       46    822c 
 30348 000000000000000000000000         0          1   09      01    00    00      02     00     06     46       47    7cdf 
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 34836 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   09      01    00    59      65     00     07     46       35    5344 
 34837 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   09      01    00    59      66     00     07     46       36    8df5 
 34838 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   09      01    00    59      67     00     07     46       37    3785 
!34839!ffffffffffffffffffffffff        !0         !1  !10     !01   !00   !00     !00    !00    !07    !46      !38   !1136 
 34840 000000000000000000000000         0          1   10      01    00    00      01     00     07     46       39    ab46 
 34841 000000000000000000000000         0          1   10      01    00    00      02     00     07     46       40    aa2a 
 34842 000000000000000000000000         0          1   10      01    00    00      03     00     07     46       41    105a 
Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 35484 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   10      01    00    08      45     00     07     55       08    4e38 
 35485 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   10      01    00    08      46     00     07     55       09    b0cb 
 35486 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   11      01    00    00      00     00     07     55       10    095f 
!35487!000000000000000000000000        !0         !2  !00     !00   !00   !00     !00    !00    !00    !00      !11   !2365 
 35488 000000000000000000000000         0          1   11      01    00    00      02     00     07     55       12    6d9e 
 35489 000000000000000000000000         0          1   11      01    00    00      03     00     07     55       13    d7ee 
 35490 000000000000000000000000         0          1   11      01    00    00      04     00     07     55       14    c0dd

! - denotes last frame of the previous track (from TOC)
so there are no gaps. INDEX is never 0; MSF never count back. only thing different is relation between subchannel track index and TOC. size of pause is presumed depending on this difference alone. Tracks 4, 9: hit on TOC - pause =0; Tracks 8,10 differ by 1 frame - pause =01; Tracks 5, 7 kick in with a 2 frame delay - pause =02; Tracks 6,11 should have been 02, applying this math, but ADRESS=2 type frame shifts them to 01.
so there is no reason for gaps, it's only a strange mastering of cd. i'll go instead for a cdrwin gap layout in such cases: audio2audio=00

*edit: i forgot about numbering difference. it's last frame marked not first*

yes, 1st track's crc match with TJCD1018
so i think it should be ok

oh, ok
thank you very much

355

(2 replies, posted in General discussion)

thanks, that's what i thought smile
i saw that topic on sor board, but relative cues is not much use i guess unless you have files split the same way

umm, it does not work for me
Disc with ID "2030" doesn't exist.

also there is no PCE section on drop down, but when i go to
http://redump.org/discs/system/pce/
it says: No discs found.

gigadeath wrote:

I added my first PCE dump

Things to note:

1) cuesheet is manually edited based on gaps reported by EAC: since the CD layout isn't standard at all, EAC doesn't automatically list all tracks in the .cue, but only the first audio track, while PerfectRip gives an error on last data track, so it doesn't save the .cue
2) I dumped both data tracks with IsoBuster: I resized track02 by 2:00, which is track03 pregap
3) both data tracks have a 2.74 (526848 bytes) pregap I attached using psxt001z, because IsoBuster doesn't dump pregap before data tracks: this way the total sector count of the dump is right and matches the actual CD

yeah, the same here, everything's as you said
and cdrwin fail too on full scan, but on quick gaps differ a bit sad
and cdmage won't open sad

offset: -1341
not sure where to look for date

FILE "Track 01.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 02.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 MODE1/2352
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:74
FILE "Track 03.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Track 04.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 05.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 06.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 07.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 08.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 09.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 10.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 11.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 12.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 12 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 13.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 13 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 14.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 14 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 15.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 15 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 16.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 16 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 17.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 17 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 18.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 18 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 19.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 19 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 20.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 20 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 21.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 21 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 22.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 22 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Track 23.bin" BINARY
  TRACK 23 MODE1/2352
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:74
    rom ( name "Track 01.bin" size 7916832 crc be128779 md5 94b35e830f55eb6ec03222eb081b6763 sha1 373442f6e448f60db2e0093b31e9c62da9bab999 )
    rom ( name "Track 02.bin" size 4459392 crc 378f80a7 md5 20bfad7f1f65ae5a99b1ef434fd77ad4 sha1 850f4a2ca485546a10e999c59c7a544fec653b1e )
    rom ( name "Track 03.bin" size 2255568 crc fa519ee2 md5 51064843d3afeac20db0e323e50d48dc sha1 7d308f0c424cc12c17faba7e2bb3a870a11ca70e )
    rom ( name "Track 04.bin" size 5489568 crc 987e0d89 md5 11fdea335e1068364e09fe6d01707511 sha1 6430ceca0c11add1f77a6adb983a8a96bc7691c5 )
    rom ( name "Track 05.bin" size 10158288 crc 0da562bb md5 7bfa376da5ad26893f84680d47cabd57 sha1 5c2a955e76b2a172b45cf9bec81688364d8cb290 )
    rom ( name "Track 06.bin" size 34604976 crc f308e2d1 md5 38fbc0a8d81680df24a423a1af595d69 sha1 417cfa7429a7ab931834a2d4d16dddbb239f407a )
    rom ( name "Track 07.bin" size 6079920 crc c367a2d8 md5 647c7f89b9331d9cb7f1e9a2074919a4 sha1 d7900d860b190152354b3e77311ea837bcadf544 )
    rom ( name "Track 08.bin" size 40405008 crc ae1aed51 md5 44380426df90512369d004ab4675f7f3 sha1 5e478ab5f61a54b6ea0e9639fe61ff3596e9f137 )
    rom ( name "Track 09.bin" size 7538160 crc 6ab05ae2 md5 cc4644c208b37a38e81d0f1a0b9786b6 sha1 887298ce08f95ccb9dcb20c9b5eba8f618c1b776 )
    rom ( name "Track 10.bin" size 32457600 crc bb40b094 md5 4a694d2c76b186d2b2551378ab879f94 sha1 304c6c8de1d9cbfdaa4e838d83b70abb0aa6a5a1 )
    rom ( name "Track 11.bin" size 5489568 crc a331b252 md5 da2bbe8a205b36b71d575c01400c3d2d sha1 1d0670a816d4bf8a1287c50118fc7d1bf27f5180 )
    rom ( name "Track 12.bin" size 35505792 crc 1406de29 md5 1f530199179dd8c4f9bdc1314c895e18 sha1 e1224179d6d4137e290eb6f50057621dc10430eb )
    rom ( name "Track 13.bin" size 6653808 crc bc32c53b md5 a0bf8afc3c8336e9ccd88fbab30be062 sha1 da3ae95b1945ab7390ac9ff9aa6cac104ba6d9fc )
    rom ( name "Track 14.bin" size 34407408 crc 734a3b9a md5 dbec0e8fc1f317c558780ec784b7ef26 sha1 4098a7637d29b332e65ef787797a42cd625e09c5 )
    rom ( name "Track 15.bin" size 7554624 crc d421bb79 md5 49251792eac3e3c4dd789f7d8569b01a sha1 6a0a8b07472179b5c74f156ac5dd2733ecf92f7e )
    rom ( name "Track 16.bin" size 50464512 crc c3009b4c md5 a54d3c869aee84fe7d6726b46d97316d sha1 31801472685754d05432f8d5cd48cdded3addb9f )
    rom ( name "Track 17.bin" size 32212992 crc 74565f4f md5 dab2af1f6412aad57b875308d28f43eb sha1 4bf13cee3a665e6e5a6fc715aa2a7d7116a5768e )
    rom ( name "Track 18.bin" size 1328880 crc 6fac9ea1 md5 20b024589559c4ac53b760e946576783 sha1 0c0f0e1cc81c7e701248378cb7a5e56b71be8023 )
    rom ( name "Track 19.bin" size 1246560 crc a7eb979b md5 59efbbe45c48c47828bd9af830880e06 sha1 13e66a87f5985581b570e254edb07f3d7624ce02 )
    rom ( name "Track 20.bin" size 37782528 crc 83caf416 md5 53e4766e73217dbfde5065c2c52552e7 sha1 ba21870a01873c5d41e0d165b9cf693e3bcc0810 )
    rom ( name "Track 21.bin" size 38996160 crc 5345e0c7 md5 24b8a3a68f621382ed9fcb8b8070c27b sha1 2f77fde15dc31a4361a0ecd901690a8cb8a5e547 )
    rom ( name "Track 22.bin" size 41849136 crc 91a6234d md5 e8972895f39d8c7fe91068ce0b1562c2 sha1 c978660696556f9fa7ae55ec91322da2026c8f58 )
    rom ( name "Track 23.bin" size 4108944 crc f61349f0 md5 8e27d7e61b0ab0a4282ef46116a008c9 sha1 f0cd56093e63a92f08100b1457b0b5eb14f86f44 )

could you please compare these with your crcs?

358

(6 replies, posted in General discussion)

to verify a crc of an existing dataonly psx cd all you'd do is click on Extract Track 01/Extract RAW Data (2352...). but if cd is damaged i think IsoBuster should give you a warning. could you please scan this image with psxt001z --fix or --scan or CDMage, maybe it is different somehow after all... or if you get no warnings in IsoBuster but do when scanning an image, it could be that this drive is not good for ripping.

359

(2 replies, posted in General discussion)

maybe it is possible to create a script that would generate .CUEs with absolute time from track offsets in .db. so people who do have single cd image with multiple tracks could use it. and since dynamic, it would change according if changes are made to cd layout in db.

aah, i ordered it at the end of the last year, but it's still not here. i hope - maybe it's because of the hiliday and it will arrive this week.

gigadeath, could you please give a list of games you dumped. if i have some of them we could compare again early on like with sega to avoid possible errors.

ok, nex year smile

363

(13 replies, posted in General discussion)

i'd get 00 sometimes on audio sectors but never on data so far. but our drives are different. maybe ther's a firmware update?

364

(13 replies, posted in General discussion)

i think i can. i use 'px_d8' that Vigi posted link to and i give it an LBA of the data track and even on first and last data tracks result would always be the same. so i think it's ok. it is huge negative most often, you're right.
[TJCD2032] Xak I & II: -1412
[TJCD2024] BABEL: -1578
[HCD9009] Ys I & II: -305
[RHCD1001] Burai: 289
[NAPR-1022] Might & Magic: -1081

i also made a little script that would do a math. maybe you can find it useful. it's on awk.
http://www.mediafire.com/?4nzfhyccym1
so you can place everything in directory where px_d8.exe is and call offset.bat like this
offset DRIVE LBA DRIVECORRECTION
e.g.
offset h 3600 30
it will do 3 readings on different sectors then and return Absolute offset for DB and relative ones for all my 3 drives
to configure your drives change D1,D2 and D3 in offset.awk to your EAC offsets

365

(13 replies, posted in General discussion)

k, i did

366

(13 replies, posted in General discussion)

to be honest i don't know. EAC is wrong, but defined dumping relies heavy on EAC. if you keep them that way, more people will be able to compare and verify with DB. it's most importan't i guess.
data shoudn't change, so it must be possible to correct gaps by moving corresponding amount of sectors from track to track. in this case 2352 bytes from the beginning of the track following gap to the end of the one before.

367

(13 replies, posted in General discussion)

i think i've found out why EAC would return a rather strange GAP layout sometimes.
it's only a 1 special case, but it happens time to time.

when uncertain you can use Subcode Analyzer to take look at subchannel by yourself.
and so you will see something like this:

Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 76661 000000000000000000000000         0          1   07      01    01    57      62     00     17     04       10    232f 
 76662 000000000000000000000000         0          1   07      01    01    57      63     00     17     04       11    995f 
 76663 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      00    00    01      74     00     17     04       12    5021 
 76664 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      00    00    01      73     00     17     04       13    27d4 
 76665 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      00    00    01      72     00     17     04       14    fd62 
 76666 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      00    00    01      71     00     17     04       15    0391 
 .....
 76811 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      00    00    00      01     00     17     06       10    6d70 
 76812 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      00    00    00      00     00     17     06       11    d700 
 76813 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   08      01    00    00      00     00     17     06       12    a0b0 
 76814 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      01    00    00      01     00     17     06       13    1ac0 
 76815 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      01    00    00      02     00     17     06       14    84f5 
 76816 000000000000000000000000         0          1   08      01    00    00      03     00     17     06       15    3e85

this is a PostGAP for Track 07 from some PSX CD:
(last sector for this track from TOC is 76812)
TNO increase; INDEX=0; MSF - resets and counts back
(since it's 74 this time, we can assume result will be a multiple of 75)
and afterwards: INDEX=1; MSF - reset again and count forward
Q=76813-76663=150=2 sec;
this is i think what EAC would do on a 'Detection method A'
'Detection method B' appears to be something less raw since it works on drive that
can't do a full subchannel read and will return correct gaps for 1Data+1Audio CDs
on the other drives it would return a rather random numbers but somewhere close to 2"
so maybe it's just some command for a drive to get pauses and is like outdated by now.
i don't know what 'C' is
P=76814-76664=150=2sec
P goes with a little offset from Q but most of the time yields the same result
but sometimes it would differ, like on older Mega CD games P usually is 186 when Q=150
i guess for this or some other reason it is not used in the most soft at all i think.


#1
01:74>>02:00
Mega CD
  [G-6003] Quiz Scramble Special
  [G-6010] Pro Yakyuu Super League CD
  [T-49014] Cosmic Fantasy Stories
Saturn
  [GS-9101] Fighting Vipers (V1.010)

Frame  P                        Q-CONTROL Q-ADDRESS Q-TNO Q-INDEX Q-MIN Q-SEC Q-FRAME Q-ZERO Q-AMIN Q-ASEC Q-AFRAME Q-CRC16 
 55506 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   18      01    00    16      09     00     12     22       05    8f53 
 55507 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   18      01    00    16      10     00     12     22       06    1316 
 55508 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   18      01    00    16      11     00     12     22       07    a966 
 55509 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          2   00      00    00    00      00     00     00     00       08    a07d 
 55510 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   19      00    00    01      73     00     12     22       09    6bc2 
 55511 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   19      00    00    01      72     00     12     22       10    428b 
 55512 ffffffffffffffffffffffff         0          1   19      00    00    01      71     00     12     22       11    bc78

so this is what happens:
ther's ADRESS=2 sector right on boundary, actually it shadows last frame before Pause
(how can you know it's not shadowing a part of a Pause? you can do calc on P.
compared to other tracks, it should increase if it would. it does not in this case)
but EAC counts it as 1st sector of Pause and thus GAP increase by 1 frame
why it is there i don't know, i think it belongs to Audio CD standard and should not be
on mixed mode at all. though it is. on Mega CD and Saturn - every 98th frame.
CDRWin can get GAPs correct in this case.


#2
Other
Mega CD
  [T-44024] Capcom no Quiz: Tono-sama no Yabou
    GAP 01->02=04:00
  [T-49014] Cosmic Fantasy Stories
    GAP 56->57=01:73
Saturn
  [GS-9015] Panzer Dragoon (V1.001)
    GAP 01->02=02:01; rest are 02:00
  [GS-9050] Godzilla: Rettousinnkann (V1.000)
    GAP 05->06=02:39; rest are 01:74
  [GS-9097] Virtua Cop 2 (V1.004)
    GAP 10->11=01:74; rest are 02:00

even though strange GAPs appear to be valid.

F1ReB4LL wrote:

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/DREAM-STARS-JA … idZ2QQtZkm - if someone is interested in buying some cheap PCE CDs smile

unopened cds from 20 years back tongue how can thihs be? unless they dig up time capsules

also in usa mega cd disc format specification it says pauses should be >=2sec. and somewhat strange thing is for example with 1st cd: G-6001, spliting tracks by detected gaps cuts data in half but if not detection is used pauses align nicely at the beginning and end of each track. still i think no data is lost, total size of audio tracks differ only by postgap but it's always 00, isn't it? so like if all tracks were put back togeather in img or bin no matter what gaps was full crc would be always the same. only cue differ.

yes, i understand your concern, that issue with no gap on 2 tracks, the result would be data lost, ok. but i think it's some eac internals. on psx i would get it correct on 1 drive from 3 and it can be verified with sector viewer and also full cd size would always match so i think it's ok. but what i mean is, i think ther's those all 2sec gaps and one 1.74 and oddities like that on this system but even if it's later proven to be wrong, like all gaps should be even, data would not be lost, only shifted, would it not? so existing dumps could be easy modified should such a need arise. and like 99% info can be verified until then so it's not lost like part of tapes and floppies are now.

so that would be great then  smile
i have some cds too, and i got some more for sega so i'll submit those meanwhile
and even if those odd gaps will prove to be incorrect later i think it's still ok, sector or 2 off it's not that bad

since some games are getting close to 20 years by now and most of what you can find on web are iso/mp3
and after all like with SEGA ther's not that many CDs

got this on two CDs, both were made after year 2003
both has offset -12, what's a bit unusual for Japan region
AFAICT only difference is that both SM bytes in 11th sector are set to 88 (Data=1;EOF=1)
and EDC/ECC changes accordingly. in every other way it's just like 'Jap EDC'
and also SM bytes in sector following right after system region hasn't got EOR bit set

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crash on Oni Zero ID field: SLPS_031.06 in root; label:ONIZERO_HUKKATU_

i added log below from i think it was Vagrant Story
i made a little script to do this fast and i would pass to it usually also sector 10 or 100 or so
when it was 31 most of the time but can't say that always

no, i would usually set offset to PR 0 for data cds. did not know of this. but now i rechecked everything and 31 are only for listed games above.

31 is strange. it looks like this change occurs in time around year 2000. firs cd i saw with it was Tales of Eternia, i could determine because it has audio tracks. but it was the only one then and i was not sure and did not submit it.

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