Yes, we're preserving the original medias, they don't need to be run w/modchips or on imported consoles.

Different languages in menus may be mentioned in the comments, because if you can't choose the language of the game itself - those can't be named the "game languages".

Translated subtitles is enough to specify the language, because subtitles are enough to play and enjoy the game fully (of course, if everything, except the voices, is translated - menus, all the text, etc.). There are many japanese multilingual games with all the text translated (but w/japanese voices only).

Egg or chicken? smile

Jackal wrote:

There IS no version info on PSX games.. we ASSUME versions based on exe dates, so the one with the earliest exe date gets v1.0 and the newer one v1.1 etc..

"Revision" would better for them, nope?

I don't know about God of Wars II, but all the Saturn CDs have their CD/volume numbers in the header (except the audio and non-Saturn bonus ones). I don't like a standalone game cd entry, if it has "CD-1/2" in the header.

Rocknroms wrote:
F1ReB4LL wrote:

I'd vote for Disc A, Disc B, etc., but only when it's needed. If it's written on the CD - why not? smile

I agree if we have this situation:

Disc 1 ---> "Install Disc"
Disc 2 ---> "Disc A"
Disc 3 ---> "Disc B"

if they are only "Disc A" & "Disc B" it's good as themabus did adding it in the comment.

IMO, CDs should be named either by header or by CD labels. Disc A, Disc B - by CD labels. You're basically offer to name them according to the header here, ok, but:

Rocknroms wrote:

Moreover I would like to split game disc with bonus or omake that are labelled as disc #, this could be added in notes, for example:

Sengoku Blade: Sengoku Ace Episode II (Japan) (Disc 1) ---> Sengoku Blade: Sengoku Ace Episode II (Japan)

Sengoku Blade: Sengoku Ace Episode II (Omake CD) (Japan) (Disc 2) ---> Sengoku Blade: Sengoku Ace Episode II (Omake CD) (Japan)

You contradict yourself here. This Omake CD has "CD2/2" in the header, so it acts as a 2nd CD.

I'd vote for Disc A, Disc B, etc., but only when it's needed. If it's written on the CD - why not? smile

<Handrie> New dump(s) http://redump.org/rss/recentdumps : [PC CD][NEW] test (Asia) (Disc A) <http://redump.org/disc/8539/>

so looks like it's not only numerical.

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Jackal wrote:

Because.. Rev is used when it's stamped on the actual chip.. we use the standard naming of v1.0 and v1.1.. that's also how gameshark sites etc. make the distinction.

Yes, and I repeat, that all (or almost all) the Saturn CDs and at least Japanese Sega CD and 3DO discs have the revisions in their ringcodes.

Also, No-Intro guys aren't perfect in their conventions. http://blog.goo.ne.jp/ototo2006/c/9c953 … 5e25166cee -- look at the marks on pokemon yellow covers (GBC), clearly A, B, C, D letters (revisions), but their GBx dat uses 1.0/1.1/etc. version naming.

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PREGAP and POSTGAP aren't alternatives to each other, 00 index (before the track) is pregap, 02 to 99 (after the track itself) - postgap. Full dump -- cue with indexes, stripped dump (gaps were cut out) -- cue with PREGAP/POSTGAP commands (they tell the burning tool or emulator to insert some null samples there). This "vote" is pointless, hence closed.

D8 won't help - even if he would be able to find the correct offset, negative combined offset may result in missing bytes in post-data audiotracks, especially with EAC.

Should be treated by ingame title, I doubt SimCity 2000: Special Edition have a different title inside (game + extra tools). Need for Speed SE have the different ingame title - http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/n … otId,3324/ - so it's not an edition.

"Special Edition" isn't the only edition of this game on this platform, so you're wrong.

Jackal wrote:

I don't see how the current naming is wrong.. I just didn't add 'Jewel Case' because it's pointless as far as I can see..

Currently it's listed as "Special Edition" of "SimCity 2000: Special Edition", not "Special Edition" of "SimCity 2000". I don't want to see any custom "double titles" in the db (unless there are real cases with the "double" naming, doubt it). Edition should be in the "Edition" field only, never in the title (unless it's the only edition of the game, so the edition is a part of the title).

Then explain this properly to everyone, I don't want to see such titles anymore. It's not me, who confuses everyone with the naming.

themabus wrote:

lol, F1ReB4LL, you top yourself with this one,

So it's funny for you?

themabus wrote:

can you read like at all, or perhaps you simply lack basic understanding of things?

orly? Your mass renamings to "double names", confusing other people, which prefer to add similar double names into db now? So it's my fault and I can't read?

themabus wrote:

well yes, guees what, you have to actually do something, make those fields, update code - do something
bragging on 1st page about no-intro being implementet won't make it happen

I was asked to announce it, that's all. That doesn't mean I support ruining the database, which is being done by some members.

WTF again? What's that SimCity 2000: Special Edition with Edition: Special Edition? People, we're not a set of dats, like No-Intro, we're a DATABASE, which has its own fields, which should be properly filled for each entry and dat generation here is a secondary feature. If you don't like the naming in the dats - talk to Dremora or write your own generator or make/fix the dats manually and host them somewhere, but don't even dare to tweak the DB fields to match your f@#$ing dats! I've already tired of massive renamings by themabus and Jackal, which clearly look to me like acts of sabotage in order to screw the database. Guess, we'll be forced to harshly reduce the number of mods soon.

BitLooter wrote:

I took a closer look at SC2k and found many files, including the PDF manual, dated around early 1998. The game's special edition was released (as best as I can tell) late 1995-early 1996. Therefore, I believe this disc to be different from the original boxed version, earning its own release designation. So now I'm thinking it should be labeled:

SimCity 2000: Special Edition (Jewel Case) or
SimCity 2000 (Special Edition Jewel Case)

Or is there a better word for "Jewel Case" I should use instead?

Title: SimCity 2000
Edition: Special Edition - Jewel Case

Same for (Original), I wasn't talking about the filenames.

And don't forget, that we have a totally different database with its own fields. What's looking good in No-Intro's dats is screwing our database and vice-versa. Also, I don't remember any special/limited/whatever editions on the carts, so the convention should be at least modified.

BitLooter wrote:

So I should use:

Slam Tilt (Expert Software)
SimCity 2000: Special Edition (Original)

Why not SimCity 2000 (Special Edition)? I.e. "Special Edition" in "Edition" field? I don't think this game has "Special Edition" on the title screen...

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http://forum.redump.org/topic/4849/sorr … quiz-here/

Demo, Taikenban, Sampleban, Sample, Promo, Hibaihin, Not For Sale, Shikyouhin, Mihonhin/Mihon Hin, etc. should be in Edition. You can name it Sample, Demo or whatever in the dats, it's not that critical.

themabus wrote:

'without any discussions' so since you're unable to contribute to discussion within an week
one so important to you, btw, you're all pissed now
i presume you require personal invitation or something to grant your audience,
is that right F1ReB4LL?

http://forum.redump.org/post/13076/#p13076 -- I've told everything already almost a year ago.

Also, I've meant not only you, I can name at least 3 mods, who like to rename on their own without any discussions.

themabus wrote:

This flag shows the version (vX.XX) or revision (Rev X) of the game. It is put in
parentheses. Revision is used instead of version when applicable. Numbers
and/or letters can be used depending on the system or program approach.
The flag is only added if the version/revision is greater than the initial release.
Source is usually ROM header or cartridge stamps.

As I've said already, at least Japanese Saturn, Sega CD and 3DO discs have the revisions in their ringcodes, so we can switch to it (we can enter both version and revision into Version field for Saturn CDs, but only revision into Version (datfile) field for the dats).

Jackal wrote:

About reaching F1ReB4LL: he's on IRC every day, and so are most of the other mods, so if you want to discuss anything then that's the best place.

You can always PM me before such a massive renamings.

themabus wrote:

i moved 'Taikenban' from Version to Title for Japanese PSX set as @satakore

I just hope Dremora is serious about writing a new site, where noone will be able to edit the entries so easy, because with such a "smart" crew, which members rename everything 10 times a month on their own without any discussions and without any logic, this project is going into f@#king nowhere. Over.

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Dumpers and higher.

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Even if his drive is unable to overread into leadout and there's data upto the very end, this can only result in some zeroed samples at the very end (the drive can't read them due to positive combined offset), but it shouldn't lead to different checksums every time.