reentrant wrote:

231096 - 230946 = 150 = 2sec = pregap. Try to lower it by few hundred sectors. DIC dump is bugged if error range crosses tracks & pregap area...

Ohh, I didn't know about that. Thanks!

Jackal said above that you can cut out a track from the .img with a hex editor, do you know how that works?

I used HxD Hex Editor. It's a simple copy & paste app. You don't have to use it anymore (use new CDArchive).

reentrant, would it be possible to specify drive speed in CDArchive? I'm missing 6 sectors right now and although my drive can extract them first try, they don't match EccEdc. Maybe they would if it was reading them at a slower speed?

I'll look at it during the weekend. Should be possible...

I have a DVD IBM PC game with what could be Ring Protech. Any advice how to dump it?

Salviamo la cultura videoludica italiana.

LoStraniero91 wrote:

I have a DVD IBM PC game with what could be Ring Protech. Any advice how to dump it?

DIC does not support those discs yet, it will abort reading as soon as protected area is reached.

One could use isobuster and replace those sectors by '0x55' bytes but we have not deceided yet if it should be '0x55's or can be '0x00's for example. If we consider '0x55' bytes then sarami could probably code DIC with that.

My talk to sarami about one of those discs:
http://forum.redump.org/post/59799/#p59799
http://forum.redump.org/post/59854/#p59854
http://forum.redump.org/post/60084/#p60084
I never came back to this topic though.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

DVD's don't have bad sectors (afaik)

Here's is some info for DVD and BD (correction codes): http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/do … p;type=pdf

DVDs have RSPC code and can contain bad sectors but this has to be done in factory. I don't know if home devices can burn discs with incorrect correction codes...

@iR0b0t, LoStraniero91
Please tell me the disc title, region and barcode if possible.

http://redump.org/disc/10400/
Backcover does not have a barcode, it must be on the big box, which i don't have.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

This? https://www.amazon.de/Vidis-Restricted- … 0002E4MH6/

I don't know how the big box looks like, but i think its the correct one.
Its a german seller, they should sell german version.

One of the sellers from this listing has pictures which match my disc.
Seller's name: GameShop Eichhorn

It should be in general the correct listing.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

38 (edited by Jackal 2018-09-23 07:40:06)

The barcode is 4891779103179 .
It's also available on medimops.de.
There are other discs (CD's) with similar LL21 ringcodes and Ring protection: http://redump.org/discs/quicksearch/rin … code/ll21/

Thanks info. Do these discs have the ring on the different file like http://forum.redump.org/post/63714/#p63714?

sarami wrote:

Thanks info. Do these discs have the ring on the different file like http://forum.redump.org/post/63714/#p63714?

They are also inside large exe files IIRC, but the IFPI LL21 are different type than "Unnamed CD.IDX" because you can't dump them in DIC and the last sectors have to be dumped with cdarchive like Ring ProTECH.

Ok. To be recognized these unnamed protection, I'm coding that reads the filename from external text file.

Btw, It seems CD Media World simply calls these unnamed ring protect "Physical Errors".
https://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/c … rors.shtml

42 (edited by LoStraniero91 2018-09-25 11:06:27)

sarami wrote:

@iR0b0t, LoStraniero91
Please tell me the disc title, region and barcode if possible.

Title: Colin McRae Rally 04
Region: I guess Italy but I should investigate more, it's labeled "FX Interactive"
Barcode: 8 436010 151135

https://www.webster.it/videogame-colin_ … 151135.htm Found something with the same barcode.

Salviamo la cultura videoludica italiana.

LoStraniero91 wrote:

Title: Colin McRae Rally 04
Region: I guess Italy but I should investigate more, it's labeled "FX Interactive"
Barcode: 8 436010 151135

https://www.webster.it/videogame-colin_ … 151135.htm Found something with the same barcode.

Thanks.

@reentrant
To Compare with my tool, I'm running your tool using proring disc.
Your tool says.

D:\!redump\reentranttools\CDArchive.exe -x g -d "D:\!redump" -e 52767 73504 10 3 10 fb D:\!redump\reentranttools\test.bin
Extracting error range forward: 52757 - 73514
Read sector: 52757Extracting error range backwards: 52757 - 73514
Read sector: 73514
Extracted all sectors

But no files extracted. What should I do?

44 (edited by _Maki 2018-10-06 19:02:52)

sarami wrote:
D:\!redump\reentranttools\CDArchive.exe -x g -d "D:\!redump" -e 52767 73504 10 3 10 fb D:\!redump\reentranttools\test.bin

"D:\!redump\reentranttools\test.bin" needs to point to the bin file that was dumped before where the ring sector was skipped and replaced with 0x55. CDArchive.exe will try to extract all 0x55 sectors from the CD.

Wow, I forgot about this topic wink

If you're using version from 23th reply in this thread specify cue path as last argument!

46 (edited by sarami 2018-10-07 02:22:51)

reentrant wrote:

If you're using version from 23th reply in this thread specify cue path as last argument!

Its version doesn't work for me. I don't know why...
I used the 2nd reply version and confirmed my tool and your tool outputted same hash. Total errors of proring are 755.

D:\!redump\reentranttools>CDArchive.exe -x g -d "D:\!redump\reentranttools" -e 52776 73493 10 3 10 fb D:\!redump\reentranttools\test.bin
Extracting error range forward: 52766 - 73503
Read sector: 62555
Rereading sector: 62556
Rereading sector: 62556
Rereading sector: 62556
Rereading sector: 62556
Rereading sector: 62556
Rereading sector: 62556
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Rereading sector: 62556
Cannot read sector: 62556
Rereading sector: 62557
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Rereading sector: 62557
Cannot read sector: 62557
Rereading sector: 62558
Rereading sector: 62558
Rereading sector: 62558
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Rereading sector: 62558
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Cannot read sector: 62558
Rereading sector: 62559
Rereading sector: 62559
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Rereading sector: 62559
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Rereading sector: 62559
Rereading sector: 62559
Cannot read sector: 62559
Extracting error range backwards: 52766 - 73503
Read sector: 63336
Rereading sector: 63335
Read sector: 63317
Rereading sector: 63316
Read sector: 63315
Rereading sector: 63314
Read sector: 63313
Rereading sector: 63312
Read sector: 63311
Rereading sector: 63310
Rereading sector: 63310
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Rereading sector: 63310
Rereading sector: 63310
Rereading sector: 63310
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Cannot read sector: 63310
Rereading sector: 63309
Rereading sector: 63309
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Rereading sector: 63309
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Rereading sector: 63309
Rereading sector: 63309
Rereading sector: 63309
Rereading sector: 63309
Rereading sector: 63309
Cannot read sector: 63309
Rereading sector: 63308
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Rereading sector: 63308
Rereading sector: 63308
Rereading sector: 63308
Rereading sector: 63308
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Rereading sector: 63308
Rereading sector: 63308
Rereading sector: 63308
Cannot read sector: 63308
Rereading sector: 63307
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Rereading sector: 63307
Rereading sector: 63307
Cannot read sector: 63307

Extracted all sectors

47 (edited by RibShark 2018-10-22 20:25:20)

Optiarc AD-7170S does not appear to be able to read every sector. When attempting to dump http://redump.org/disc/43106/, the drive fails to read sectors 2178-2184. So not all Optiarc drives are good for dumping physical ring protection.

PX-4824TA (offset +98), PX-755SA (offset +30), ASUS BW-16D1HT (offset +6)

RibShark wrote:

Optiarc AD-7170S does not appear to be able to read every sector. When attempting to dump http://redump.org/disc/43106/, the drive fails to read sectors 2178-2184. So not all Optiarc drives are good for dumping physical ring protection.

Did you use cdarchive to read backwards with enough read retries?

Jackal wrote:
RibShark wrote:

Optiarc AD-7170S does not appear to be able to read every sector. When attempting to dump http://redump.org/disc/43106/, the drive fails to read sectors 2178-2184. So not all Optiarc drives are good for dumping physical ring protection.

Did you use cdarchive to read backwards with enough read retries?

How many read retries are required on average?

PX-4824TA (offset +98), PX-755SA (offset +30), ASUS BW-16D1HT (offset +6)

50 (edited by Jackal 2018-10-23 05:44:08)

RibShark wrote:

How many read retries are required on average?

You could try with a max of 50 retries. Also be sure first to set the read speed to 4x, by starting a dump at 4x and then retrying cdarchive. If it still wont read so many sectors, I guess you have a wrong model.