Topic: Quake II pc offset & gap

@pnkiller78, I noticed that your Quake II dump with 2352 offset is identical to this dump - http://redump.org/disc/2511/ only your dump has a smaller Track02 gap and 2352 offset.. One of the 2 dumps has to be wrong, I think they should both match.

A 2352 write offset is very unlikely.. I think that the gap should be 1 sector bigger and the offset 1 sector smaller, but I'm not sure why your drives are detecting it wrongly (did you dump this disc using PerfectRip, have you verified the gaps on multiple drives?)

I hope you can recheck the offset using px_d8 and cdtool, and be sure to disable subchannel reading in both tools so that the sector offset will be correct (I hope you read the post last week where I explained that older plextor drives have a bug when, if reading sectors with subchannels enabled, the data that you see is moved to another sector.)

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Hey Vigi, I checked the offset with px_d8 using all 3 options and the result was the same with all 3.

Another thing, the 1st track of pnkiller78's dump should be different from mine, as my version can't be installed in a english system.

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Here's the gap detection on EAC

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.f2fcfd8b96.png
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.a2b5edcebb.png
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.f775e59b43.png

With a Pioneer DVR-107D the result was the same as the NEC and LG.

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

ssjkakaroto wrote:

Hey Vigi, I checked the offset with px_d8 using all 3 options and the result was the same with all 3.

Another thing, the 1st track of pnkiller78's dump should be different from mine, as my version can't be installed in a english system.

Since when PC have region protection? I run on mine Cds from all over the world... if it's only a writing on the box or manual, it doesn't mean anything, it's like "don't play this game outside of Japan blah blah" on arcade PCBs boot

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

ssjkakaroto wrote:

Here's the gap detection on EAC

http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/upload … fd8b96.png
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/upload … edcebb.png
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/upload … e59b43.png

With a Pioneer DVR-107D the result was the same as the NEC and LG.

Can you try dumping it with the Plextor and PerfectRip? Out of them all, I'd trust the Plextor gap the most... maybe PerfectRip can confirm results

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Ok, after adding track1+2 sizes of both dumps there is a difference, so I guess it's a different region version anyway, but I still think the pnkiller's 2352 offset and gap length are strange and I think all audio tracks should match on both versions..

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

gigadeath: There is a protection in the installer, it detects the language set in the operating system and blocks the installation, it's easily bypassable by setting the language in Regional Options to Portuguese or Spanish
I remember trying to dump it Perfectrip and got some errors.
I dumped this game a while ago, I was just waiting for Brazil region to submit it.

On most cases I also trust more my Plextor, but in this case (3x1) I think it's wrong.

8 (edited by pnkiller78 2008-02-02 17:14:42)

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

ok, I cannot dump in PerfectRip cause my plextor drive is connected via FireWire, and PRip doesn't see it.
this is command line for dx_d8, no subs, here my output with the px_d8 command.

C:\px_d8 k: 0 0
3DE5D18B6C44C566B6CF36D416DF4ED8
34F4977B2EA35C79F9E2C2C99196EC6E
CDEC558DFF2579E21170DE5F3458A321
B9D872DAA59B3B2B535F7DF82182C204
872B0876A0BF780C2285D9A31AF9CB02
D7419EB068742EA75C7A065CF1E797FE
E1D7D81C5A89FB26C35AD1FB1C4349F1
F6C4B743845FE22400FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFF00018171610028001E80086006
A802FE8180606028281E9E886866AEAA
FC7F01E0004800368016E00EC8045683
7EE1E0484836B696F6EEC6CC52D5FD9F
01A8007E80206018280A9E8728629EA9
A87EFEA0407830229419AF4AFC3701D6
805EE0384812B68DB6E5B6CB36D756DE
BED8705AA43B3B53537DFDE181886066
A82AFE9F0068002E801C6009E806CE82
D4619F68682EAE9C7C69E1EEC84C56B5
FEF700468032E015880F26841AE34B09
F746C6B2D2F59D8729A29EF9A842FEB1
80746027681AAE8B3C6751EABC4F31F4
14474F72B425B75B36BB56F37EC5E053
083DC69192EC6D8DEDA58DBB25B35B35
FB57037E81E0604828369E96E86ECEAC
547DFF618028601EA8087E86A062F829
829EE1A8487EB6A076F826C29AD1AB1C
7F49E036C816D68EDEE4584B7AB76336
A9D6FEDEC058503ABC1331CDD4559F7F
28201E98086A86AF22FC1981CAE05708
3E869062EC298DDEE5984B2AB75F36B8
16F28EC5A4533B7DD3619DE8698EAEE4
7C4B61F76846AEB2FC7581E7204A9837
2A969F2EE81C4E89F466C76AD2AF1DBC
09B1C6F452C77D92A1ADB87DB2A1B5B8
7732A695BAEF330C15C5CF13140DCF45
94332F55DC3F19D00ADC0719C28AD1A7
1C7A89E326C9DAD6DB1EDB485B76BB66
F36AC5EF130C0DC5C593132DCDDD9599
AF2AFC1F01C80056803EE010480C3685
D6E31EC9C856D6BEDEF058443AB35335
FDD7019E8068602EA81C7E89E066C82A
D69F1EE8084E86B462F76986AEE2FC49
81F6E046C832D6959EEF284C1EB5C877
16A68EFAE4430B71C76452AB7DBF61B0
28741EA7487AB6A336F9D6C2DED1985C
6AB9EF32CC1595CF2F141C0F49C436D3
56DDFED9805AE03B0813468DF2E5858B
232759DABADB331B55CB7F17600EA804
7E836061E8284E9EB468776EA6AC7AFD
E30189C066D02ADC1F19C80AD6871EE2
8849A6B6FAF6C306D1C2DC5199FC6AC1
EF104C0C35C5D7131E8DC86596AB2EFF
5C4039F012C40D9345ADF33D85D1A31C
79C9E2D6C99ED6E85ECEB85472BF65B0
2B341F57483EB69076EC26CDDAD59B1F
2B481F768826E69ACAEB170F4E843463
5769FEAEC07C5021FC1841CAB057343E
97506EBC2C71DDE4598B7AE7630AA9C7
3ED2905DAC39BDD2F19D8469A36EF9EC
42CDF195846F236C19EDCACD9715AE8F
3C6411EB4C4F75F427075A82BB21B358
75FAA7033A81D3205DD8399A92EB2D8F
5DA439BB52F37D85E1A30879C6A2D2F9
9D82E9A18EF86442AB71BF64702B641F
6B482F769C26E9DACEDB145B4F7B7423
6759EABACF331415CF4F14340F57443E
B35075FC2701DA805B203B58137A8DE3
2589DB26DB5ADB7B1B634B69F76EC6AC
52FDFD8181A0607828229E99A86AFEAF
007C0021C018500ABC0731C29451AF7C
7C21E1D8485AB6BB36F356C5FED3005D
C0399012EC0D8DC5A5933B2DD35D9DF9
A982FEE180486036A816FE8EC064502B
7C1F61C828569EBEE8704EA4347B5763
7EA9E07EC82056983EEA904F2C341DD7
499EB6E876CEA6D47ADF631829CA9ED7
285E9EB86872AEA5BC7B31E35449FF76
C026D01ADC0B19C74AD2B71DB689B6E6
F6CAC6D712DE8D9865AAAB3F3F50103C
0C11C5CC5315FDCF0194006F402C301D
D4099F46E832CE95946F2F6C1C2DC9DD
96D9AEDAFC5B01FB40437031E4144B4F
777426A75AFABB033341D5F05F043803
5281FDA041B830729425AF5B3C3B51D3
7C5DE1F98842E6B18AF467076A82AF21
BC1871CAA4573B7E93606DE82D8E9DA4
69BB6EF36C45EDF30D85C5A31339CDD2
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02B681B6E076C826D69ADEEB184F4AB4
37375696BEEEF04C4435F35705FE8300
61C028501EBC0871C6A452FB7D8361A1
E8784EA2B479B762F6A986FEE2C04990
36EC16CDCED5945F2F781C2289D9A6DA
FADB031B41CB7057643EAB507F7C2021
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42D0319C1469CF6ED42C5F5DF8398292
E1AD887DA6A1BAF87302A5C1BB10734C
25F5DB071B428B71A7647AAB633F69D0
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0B29C75ED2B85DB2B9B5B2F735869722
EE998C6AE5EF0B0C0745C2B311B5CC77
15E68F0AE4070B428771A2A479BB62F3
6985EEE30C49C5F6D306DDC2D9919AEC
6B0DEF458C3325D5DB1F1B480B768766
E2AAC9BF16F00EC40453437DF1E18448
6376A9E6FECAC057103E8C1065CC2B15
DF4F18340A97472EB29C75A9E73ECA90
572C3E9DD0699C2EE9DC4ED9F45AC77B
12A34DB9F5B2C73592972DAE9DBC69B1
EEF44C4775F2A705BA833321D5D85F1A
B80B328755A2BF39B012F40D8745A2B3
39B5D2F71D8689A2E6F98AC2E7118A8C
6725EA9B0F2B441F734825F69B06EB42
CF7194246F5B6C3B6DD36D9DEDA98DBE
E5B04B34375756BEBEF0704424335B55
FB7F036001E8004E80346017680EAE84
7C6361E9E84ECEB454777F66A02AF81F
028801A6807AE0230819C68AD2E71D8A
89A726FA9AC32B11DF4C5835FA97032E
81DC6059E83ACE93146DCF6D942DAF5D
BC39B1D2F45D8779A2A2F9B982F2E185
886326A9DAFEDB005B403B7013640DEB
458F732425DB5B1B7B4B637769E6AECA
FC5701FE8040603081EEC8AC486436AB
56FF7EC020A546C90A91C72C529DFDA9
81BEE0704824369B56EB7ECF6054283F
5E90386C12ADCDBD95B1AF347C1761CE
A8547EBF607028241E9B486B76AF66FC
2AC1DF10580C3A85D3231DD9C99A30F8
79AA485436BF56F03EC410A763C9F5D1
871C6289E9A6CEFAD4431F71C824569B
7EEB604F68342E975C6EB9EC72CDE595
8B2F275C1AB9CB32D7559EBF28701EA4
087B46A372F9E582CB2197586EBAAC73

My calculation was =[(7.5*16)/4]-(-4*588)-(30)=2352, my drive is a Plextor PX-760A, this is the screenshoot from CDReader showing 4 sectors behind gap with no subs.

Also, the offset was calculated with the old method and also gave the same results, Gaps were detected on 4 drives using EAC, 3 of them gave me the same result (Plextor PX-760A, LG GDR8164B, LG GSA-4082N) and 1 drive (LiteOn SOHW-1633S) gave 1 sector difference (1.74) on first track, LiteOn LTN-323 doesn't support Method A gap detection on EAC, so it was left behind.

I went with the 1.73 pregap from the 3 drives to calculate offset using ISOBuster method.
I calculated the disc offset on 3 drives using ISOBuster method (Plextor PX-760A, LG GDR8164B & LiteOn LTN-323) and the disc offset gave me the same result, see the screenshots showing the garbage data.

So definitively I think that the offset is right and the gap are OK... although I'm open to suggestions..

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Damn, I really messed up with the offset on this disc, sorry guys hmm

Using the IsoBuster method, the factory offset on my disc is either +1764 (NEC, LG and Pioneer/1.74 pregap) or +1176 (Plextor/1.73 pregap)

Here's the output of px_d8 with no subs

028801A6807AE0230819C68AD2E71D8A
89A726FA9AC32B11DF4C5835FA97032E
81DC6059E83ACE93146DCF6D942DAF5D
BC39B1D2F45D8779A2A2F9B982F2E185
886326A9DAFEDB005B403B7013640DEB
458F732425DB5B1B7B4B637769E6AECA
FC5701FE8040603032407802486436AB
56FF7EC020A544C90A91C72C529DFDA9
81BEE0704824369B56EB7ECF6054283F
5E90386C12ADCDBD95B1AF347C1761CE
A8547EBF607028241E9B486B76AF66FC
2AC1DF10580C3A85D3231DD9C99AF817
B445485436BF56F03EC410A762C9F5D1
871C6289E9A6CEFAD4431F71C824569B
7EEB604F68342E975C6EB9EC72CDE595
8B2F275C1AB9CB32D7559EBF28701EA4
087B46A372F9E582CB2197586EBAAC73
3DE5D18B28CF85EDB6CF36D416DF4ED8
34F4977B2EA35C79F9E2C2C99196EC6E
CDEC558DFF25CACB7C9257BB6377A321
B9D872DAA59B3B2B535F7DF821820804
E22BA776A0BF780C2285D9A31AF9CB02
D7419EB068742EA75C7A95BEDE8E38D1
F273D81C5A89FB26C35AD1FB1C4349F1
F6C48A43145F4F2400FFFFFFFFFFFFFF
FFFFFF00018173610028001E80086006
A802FE8180606028281E9E886866AEAA
FC7F01E0004800368016E00EC8045683
7EE1E0484836B696F6EEC6CC52D5FD9F
01A8007E80206018280A9E8728629EA9
A87EFEA0407830229419AF4AFC3701D6
805EE0384812B68DB6E5B6CB36D756DE
BED8705AA43B3B53537DFDE181886066
A82AFE9F0068002E801C6009E806CE82
D4619F68682EAE9C7C69E1EEC84C56B5
FEF700468032E015880F26841AE34B09
F746C6B2D2F59D8729A29EF9A842FEB1
80746027681AAE8B3C6751EABC4F31F4
14474F72B425B75B36BB56F37EC5E053
083DC69192EC6D8DEDA58DBB25B35B35
FB57037E81E0604828369E96E86ECEAC
547DFF618028601EA8087E86A062F829
829EE1A8487EB6A076F826C29AD1AB1C
7F49E036C816D68EDEE4584B7AB76336
A9D6FEDEC058503ABC1331CDD4559F7F
28201E98086A86AF22FC1981CAE05708
3E869062EC298DDEE5984B2AB75F36B8
16F28EC5A4533B7DD3619DE8698EAEE4
7C4B61F76846AEB2FC7581E7204A9837
2A969F2EE81C4E89F466C76AD2AF1DBC
09B1C6F452C77D92A1ADB87DB2A1B5B8
7732A695BAEF330C15C5CF13140DCF45
94332F55DC3F19D00ADC0719C28AD1A7
1C7A89E326C9DAD6DB1EDB485B76BB66
F36AC5EF130C0DC5C593132DCDDD9599
AF2AFC1F01C80056803EE010480C3685
D6E31EC9C856D6BEDEF058443AB35335
FDD7019E8068602EA81C7E89E066C82A
D69F1EE8084E86B462F76986AEE2FC49
81F6E046C832D6959EEF284C1EB5C877
16A68EFAE4430B71C76452AB7DBF61B0
28741EA7487AB6A336F9D6C2DED1985C
6AB9EF32CC1595CF2F141C0F49C436D3
56DDFED9805AE03B0813468DF2E5858B
232759DABADB331B55CB7F17600EA804
7E836061E8284E9EB468776EA6AC7AFD
E30189C066D02ADC1F19C80AD6871EE2
8849A6B6FAF6C306D1C2DC5199FC6AC1
EF104C0C35C5D7131E8DC86596AB2EFF
5C4039F012C40D9345ADF33D85D1A31C
79C9E2D6C99ED6E85ECEB85472BF65B0
2B341F57483EB69076EC26CDDAD59B1F
2B481F768826E69ACAEB170F4E843463
5769FEAEC07C5021FC1841CAB057343E
97506EBC2C71DDE4598B7AE7630AA9C7
3ED2905DAC39BDD2F19D8469A36EF9EC
42CDF195846F236C19EDCACD9715AE8F
3C6411EB4C4F75F427075A82BB21B358
75FAA7033A81D3205DD8399A92EB2D8F
5DA439BB52F37D85E1A30879C6A2D2F9
9D82E9A18EF86442AB71BF64702B641F
6B482F769C26E9DACEDB145B4F7B7423
6759EABACF331415CF4F14340F57443E
B35075FC2701DA805B203B58137A8DE3
2589DB26DB5ADB7B1B634B69F76EC6AC
52FDFD8181A0607828229E99A86AFEAF
007C0021C018500ABC0731C29451AF7C
7C21E1D8485AB6BB36F356C5FED3005D
C0399012EC0D8DC5A5933B2DD35D9DF9
A982FEE180486036A816FE8EC064502B
7C1F61C828569EBEE8704EA4347B5763
7EA9E07EC82056983EEA904F2C341DD7
499EB6E876CEA6D47ADF631829CA9ED7
285E9EB86872AEA5BC7B31E35449FF76
C026D01ADC0B19C74AD2B71DB689B6E6
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0C11C5CC5315FDCF0194006F402C301D
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96D9AEDAFC5B01FB40437031E4144B4F
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02B681B6E076C826D69ADEEB184F4AB4
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36EC16CDCED5945F2F781C2289D9A6DA
FADB031B41CB7057643EAB507F7C2021
D8185A8ABB27335A95FB2F035C01F9C0
42D0319C1469CF6ED42C5F5DF8398292
E1AD887DA6A1BAF87302A5C1BB10734C
25F5DB071B428B71A7647AAB633F69D0
2EDC1C59C9FAD6C31ED1C85C56B9FEF2
C04590332C15DDCF19940AEF470C3285
D5A31F39C812D68D9EE5A84B3EB75076
BC26F1DAC45B137B4DE37589E726CA9A
D72B1E9F486836AE96FC6EC1EC504DFC
3581D7205E98386A92AF2DBC1DB1C9B4
56F77EC6A052F83D8291A1AC787DE2A1
89B866F2AAC5BF13300DD4059F432831
DE94586F7AAC233DD9D19ADC6B19EF4A
CC3715D68F1EE4084B46B772F6A586FB
22C35991FAEC430DF1C58453237DD9E1
9AC86B16AF4EFC3441D7705EA4387B52
A37DB9E1B2C87596A72EFA9C4329F1DE
C458537ABDE33189D466DF6AD82F1A9C
0B29C75ED2B85DB2B9B5B2F735869722
EE998C6AE5EF0B0C0745C2B311B5CC77
15E68F0AE4070B428771A2A479BB62F3
6985EEE30C49C5F6D306DDC2D9919AEC
6B0DEF458C3325D5DB1F1B480B768766
E2AAC9BF16F00EC40453437DF1E18448
6376A9E6FECAC057103E8C1065CC2B15
DF4F18340A97472EB29C75A9E73ECA90
572C3E9DD0699C2EE9DC4ED9F45AC77B
12A34DB9F5B2C73592972DAE9DBC69B1
EEF44C4775F2A705BA833321D5D85F1A
B80B328755A2BF39B012F40D8745A2B3
39B5D2F71D8689A2E6F98AC2E7118A8C
6725EA9B0F2B441F734825F69B06EB42
CF7194246F5B6C3B6DD36D9DEDA98DBE
E5B04B34375756BEBEF0704424335B55
FB7F036001E8004E80346017680EAE84
7C6361E9E84ECEB454777F66A02AF81F

And here's the screenshot with CDReader
http://img2.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/th.33228be6cb.png

Can I trust the px_d8+CDReader on this one?

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Using the offset +1176 I was able to get the same hashes for tracks 2 and 3 as pnkiller78 (probably all the other tracks will match too now).
I'll redump this game tomorrow.
Does this change affect track 1 too? If so, how much do I need to remove?

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

ssjkakaroto wrote:

Using the offset +1176 I was able to get the same hashes for tracks 2 and 3 as pnkiller78 (probably all the other tracks will match too now).
I'll redump this game tomorrow.
Does this change affect track 1 too? If so, how much do I need to remove?

Just dump it in perfectrip with the plextor.. if that will give you matching checksums with +1176 and 1.73 gap then it should be ok.. smile

@pnkiller, what's the offset difference between the 2 Hexen II dumps? are you sure there isn't a sector offset caused by the bug?

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

I dumped with perfectrip, it gave me a 1.73 pregap but none of the tracks matched hmm
The pcm format it uses is the same as the MS PCM Converter?

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Yes. There's some option you have to adjust, did you read the guide?

For example combined read/write offset has to be inserted with +/- inverted

So if you dump with +56 in EAC you have to put -56 in PerfectRip

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

pnkiller78 were you able to overread into the Lead out with your LG drives? I always get a sync error at ~99.9% of track 11 with my NEC and my LG, the Plextor and Pioneer read without a problem but the CRC doesnt match yours. If I turn off overread they work ok.

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Yes, I inverted the offset.

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

So what are you saying ssjkakaroto, does the checksum match if you invert in perfectrip or not? or is there anyway you can trigger a 1.73 gap in EAC?

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

No, perfectrip never matches any checksum (not for this game or any other that I have tested) and I use the same offset that I use in EAC but with the - sign.

And yes, I can get a 1.73 pregap in EAC using my plextor.

As I said before, I can match tracks 2-10 with pnkiller78's. But when ripping track 11 I have 2 different results:
1) I can overread into the leadout with my Plextor and Pioneer and get the same CRC but it's different from pnkiller78's
2) I can't overread into the leadout with my LG and NEC, both always give me a sync error

Finally I want to know how much do I have to remove from the data track, is it just the 1.73 pregap or the fact that there's a 2 sector correction has some influence?

18 (edited by pnkiller78 2008-02-03 19:07:52)

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

sorry for the delay.. the last track I dumped with my LiteOn LTN323 -1164 Drive offset... since the disc had a big positive offset, i give it a try with this drive and in fact it got info after the position were my other drives was throwing just zeros, dumped 3 times, so since the drive didn't show errors on EAC I decided to post the info for the last track dumped with the liteon drive.

EDIT 1
Yes, my LG and plextor drive do overread in the lead-out, but I'm presuming that since these game has huge positives offset, the overread is not enough, with both drives the hashes matched, but comparing against the dump obtained with the LiteOn drive they star showing zeros in the last portion of the dump were the liteon dump showed data.

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

I'm not sure how many sectors need to be removed.. I hope someone else knows this.. And I hope you can compare the last track to pnkiller's.. maybe one of them is cut off.

edit: pnkiller, can't you install the plextor into your pc? tongue

20 (edited by pnkiller78 2008-02-03 19:14:58)

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Vigi wrote:

edit: pnkiller, can't you install the plextor into your pc? tongue

Sorry, it's a notebook sad

Vigi wrote:

@pnkiller, what's the offset difference between the 2 Hexen II dumps? are you sure there isn't a sector offset caused by the bug?

I don't know right now, I will dump the entire disk into a bin file and apply the psxt001z track method to obtain your checksums, then will compare against mines and tell you the offset difference.. I post them later

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

ssjkakaroto wrote:

Finally I want to know how much do I have to remove from the data track, is it just the 1.73 pregap or the fact that there's a 2 sector correction has some influence?

I removed just the 1.73 pregap, if you hexedit the track, and backtrack the pregap length (1.73 - 148 sectors - 348096 bytes) from the end of the track, you will see the garbage data, 1 byte more and you will see the last sector, sync data, ecc headers, etc. just remove the pregap and you will have your track 1

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Vigi wrote:

@pnkiller, what's the offset difference between the 2 Hexen II dumps? are you sure there isn't a sector offset caused by the bug?

Vigi, could you repost track samples for your Hexen II dump, this thing is taking to long sad
I tried to download the ones you posted earlier, but they are not available on the server anymore

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

pnkiller78 wrote:
Vigi wrote:

@pnkiller, what's the offset difference between the 2 Hexen II dumps? are you sure there isn't a sector offset caused by the bug?

Vigi, could you repost track samples for your Hexen II dump, this thing is taking to long sad
I tried to download the ones you posted earlier, but they are not available on the server anymore

sure, here it is: http://vigi.dremora.com/hexen2.rar

24 (edited by ssjkakaroto 2008-02-03 22:14:47)

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Hey pnkiller78, here's a remotediff for track 11 can you make a patch for me?
http://www.speedyshare.com/136917703.html

Edit:
Also if possible for track 1: http://www.speedyshare.com/650245949.html

25 (edited by ssjkakaroto 2008-02-03 22:16:16)

Re: Quake II pc offset & gap

Vigi can you update my Q2 dump with this info? I think it's correct, except maybe for the track 11 issue.

Factory Offset: +1176
Volume Serial Number is 723F-B302

    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 01).bin" size 429209424 crc 57b0a39b md5 83c2b0e26d969b7d629416b84f507d99 sha1 ba3b79ebbdb2ac2dd4fc9db7e550249221f3400e )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 02).bin" size 37192176 crc 3adeee92 md5 f1b238d9ba5ee01f1c5103b0b4df5112 sha1 ccc2c9c0cedb4945bb416c1924c2cf88d8e85ee2 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 03).bin" size 24641904 crc c459aa14 md5 c480b5a1c3e84475500294762a57d107 sha1 ac83f7e1ed9c63e8681d5744538210c0d15df946 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 04).bin" size 27186768 crc c3e5bf36 md5 f72f76792d0d65bdf1bbcd35cbe3c235 sha1 501628ce79b9bf825e9f32fd8d2d66fbfee192db )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 05).bin" size 30601872 crc e22d0d21 md5 e516a042a830a0947136c1e08970e689 sha1 56d03e44c2388b967d2a55cf810930de48cc89b5 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 06).bin" size 27675984 crc 2ad1ae08 md5 5b3145ea5eb5fbad57715cd5640a2bfe sha1 b505146ce8965b49569aa823935d2ad9a7e306cf )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 07).bin" size 38307024 crc 6db97721 md5 3b7b73ca76e609db6f0bdc322e0353b7 sha1 05872b6c4b14d49aad69c72bcd06e78fc81fa529 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 08).bin" size 32848032 crc 16633458 md5 abb9a8e0cb608b7f90d779f758ef6a90 sha1 e418f464aba867c0df3a2151615e0134f6486da7 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 09).bin" size 27854736 crc 061867c1 md5 03d94049cb0b43d8499631bfa1c2d792 sha1 5c0c78d700fda86ce3e588f33eecce8e5f216e02 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 10).bin" size 21527856 crc 4e55a3ae md5 0aa93e0c41370af91d1e5c18f7855da8 sha1 1dde6a0f96500e95fca0cf8b61631c2a67f3a777 )
    rom ( name "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 11).bin" size 21716016 crc 800bb8e1 md5 d8d1b0539ac45ba75911941ec861d0a3 sha1 da7eba60f265b04e95fdef285921e7c2d5ff416e )

Cuesheet:

FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 01).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 02).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:73
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 03).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 04).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 05).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 06).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 07).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 08).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 09).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 10).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 10 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72
FILE "Quake II (B) (v3.05) (Track 11).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 11 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:72