3,501 Reply by Lugamo

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bikerspade wrote:

http://forum.redump.org/topic/55215/neo … odown-iii/

When dumped with DiscImageCreator, it does not produce a CATALOG in the cuesheet. When dumped with redumper, it does. Which one is correct?

DIC logs: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tBKDvZ … sp=sharing

Between 20240101 and 20240401 DiscImageCreator changed how it creates .cue files from being based on subchannel information to being based on the TOC (more context in this issue). Those logs were made with 20230606, does this happen with the latest stable version?

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3,502 Reply by sarami

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Lugamo wrote:

Between 20240101 and 20240401 DiscImageCreator changed how it creates .cue files from being based on subchannel information to being based on the TOC (more context in this issue). Those logs were made with 20230606, does this happen with the latest stable version?

There is not CATALOG (MCN) in TOC and Full TOC.

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Reported redumper issue here: https://github.com/superg/redumper/issues/143

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3,504 Reply by bikerspade (edited by bikerspade 2024-05-10 17:48:03)

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Here is where the MCN is being pulled (reference):

[LBA:   -151, LBAQ: 134850] control: 0000, ADR: 2, 12 34 56 78 90 12 30 00 00, crc: D1EB (+) P: 0/96
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3,505 Reply by sarami

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Ok. I confirmed that MCN is only recorded in subchannel of the lead-in area. That would mean that drive other than Plextor can't  get MCN.

LBA[041175, 0x0a0d7]: P[00], Q[4100a0091100000100002791]{ Data,      Copy NG,                  Track[00], Point[a0], AMSF[09:11:00], TrackNumOf1stTrack[01], ProgramAreaFormat[00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041176, 0x0a0d8]: P[00], Q[4100a0091101000100008dc0]{ Data,      Copy NG,                  Track[00], Point[a0], AMSF[09:11:01], TrackNumOf1stTrack[01], ProgramAreaFormat[00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041177, 0x0a0d9]: P[00], Q[4100a0091102000100006312]{ Data,      Copy NG,                  Track[00], Point[a0], AMSF[09:11:02], TrackNumOf1stTrack[01], ProgramAreaFormat[00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041178, 0x0a0da]: P[00], Q[02123456789012300000ebd1]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [1234567890123], AMSF[     :00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041179, 0x0a0db]: P[00], Q[02123456789012300000ebd1]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [1234567890123], AMSF[     :00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041180, 0x0a0dc]: P[00], Q[02123456789012300000ebd1]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [1234567890123], AMSF[     :00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041181, 0x0a0dd]: P[00], Q[0100a1091106002000006e2b]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[00], Point[a1], AMSF[09:11:06], TrackNumOfLastTrack[20]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041182, 0x0a0de]: P[00], Q[0100a109110700200000c47a]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[00], Point[a1], AMSF[09:11:07], TrackNumOfLastTrack[20]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041183, 0x0a0df]: P[00], Q[0100a109110800200000a183]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[00], Point[a1], AMSF[09:11:08], TrackNumOfLastTrack[20]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041184, 0x0a0e0]: P[00], Q[02123456789012300000ebd1]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [1234567890123], AMSF[     :00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041185, 0x0a0e1]: P[00], Q[02123456789012300000ebd1]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [1234567890123], AMSF[     :00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041186, 0x0a0e2]: P[00], Q[02123456789012300000ebd1]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, MediaCatalogNumber [1234567890123], AMSF[     :00]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041187, 0x0a0e3]: P[00], Q[0100a2091112006400394d15]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[00], Point[a2], AMSF[09:11:12], StartTimeOfLead-out[64:00:39]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041188, 0x0a0e4]: P[00], Q[0100a209111300640039e744]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[00], Point[a2], AMSF[09:11:13], StartTimeOfLead-out[64:00:39]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
LBA[041189, 0x0a0e5]: P[00], Q[0100a2091114006400398090]{Audio, 2ch, Copy NG, Pre-emphasis No, Track[00], Point[a2], AMSF[09:11:14], StartTimeOfLead-out[64:00:39]}, RtoW[0, 0, 0, 0]
DiscImageCreator, UmdImageCreator, Conv2multiBin, bin2wav, PS3Auth (needs login), recompressTo7z_20150109.bat

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3,506 Reply by bikerspade (edited by bikerspade 2024-05-11 16:52:00)

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Thank you for confirming. I’m not sure what the correct behavior should be, even if it would be limited to some drives.

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3,507 Reply by sarami

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bikerspade wrote:

Thank you for confirming. I’m not sure what the correct behavior should be, even if it would be limited to some drives.

Generally, MCN is recorded per 98 frames in subchannel of the lead-in, track, lead-out area. The presence of numerous indexes on track 1 of the NeoGeo CD is said to be a type of protection. The presence of MCNs only in the lead-in may also be a type of protection.

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