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Ha that's cool. You're preserving an entire system's worth of games all by yourself!

I did some digging around on wikipedia and found a similar DVD system called Nuon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuon_(DVD_technology) - which actually has an emulator for it

And a few more failed disc systems:

  • V.Flash (which we have 2 of the 9 cds dumped for the system here already)

  • Tandy VIS

  • LaserActive (which uses Laser Discs - part analog and part digital, I assume we would preserve the digital data for these here? Dumping might be super difficult lol!).

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I has me a complete US Laseractive set, but I'm not going down that preservation road. However, I could have *sworn* there was already a group of folks attempting it, at least from a Game-Rave angle, over at https://laseractive.wordpress.com/laser … e-database

I don't know how the hell you would get the data unless some crazy hack-up of a LA (would never happen) or plain jane LD player happened.

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Well son of a ....
http://gendev.spritesmind.net/forum/vie … amp;t=1647

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Good find on the links

"Several Japanese LaserActive games are pornographic in nature. I will not dumping these games." = </3

From the looks of it, dumping requires specialized hardware and a bit of a run around. Still these are discs with digital content so the digital part seems very appropriate for redump. This guy seems to know what he's doing so I'll reach out to him, if he just goes his own way I suppose that's just as well as we have no LaserActive dumps though.

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What's interesting is that I don't think most of those are 'porn', just nude video / peeping tom / strip gaming typical Japanese stuff, but I can applaud his legit parental instincts.

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user7 wrote:

This guy seems to know what he's doing so I'll reach out to him, if he just goes his own way I suppose that's just as well as we have no LaserActive dumps though.

This guy seems to do absolutely nothing.

The only person who was able to dump the program part from LV-ROM/LD-ROM discs was BoboPJ64, who, unfortunately, disappeared years ago.

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Well. I've crossed the Rubicon. I've ordered all 12 other games for this system and a console. I'll be dumping every game for this system.

Any interest in other obscure consoles? Sent you a PM.

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F1ReB4LL wrote:

This guy seems to do absolutely nothing.

Well I guess he spent three years collect LaserActive discs from people smile hopefully dumping them soon.

But from the looks of it he has written software and modified hardware to dump the discs, so that's a start I guess. Also he's got a setup for high quality ripping off the analog portions of the discs (although that's not or interest for redump).

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user7 wrote:
F1ReB4LL wrote:

This guy seems to do absolutely nothing.

Well I guess he spent three years collect LaserActive discs from people smile hopefully dumping them soon.

Wrong. "Last edited by Nemesis on Mon May 26, 2014 11:31 pm, edited 5 times in total." for the game list, mostly silence afterwards.

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Go to page 5, last post by Nemesis is from Jan 05, 2017

Btw I reached out to some guys that run Nuon sites. Hopefully something comes from it. Those discs will be a pita to track down otherwise.

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Go to page 5, last post by Nemesis is from Jan 05, 2017

Words, words, words and zero results for 4+ years of his "work".

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Btw I reached out to some guys that run Nuon sites. Hopefully something comes from it. Those discs will be a pita to track down otherwise.

Would be nice to. Space Invaders XL and Toshiba Sampler were shared years ago, but both seem to be lost in ages. Bust-A-Move and Crayon Shin-chan were never dumped, AFAIK.

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F1ReB4LL wrote:
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Go to page 5, last post by Nemesis is from Jan 05, 2017

Words, words, words and zero results for 4+ years of his "work".

user7 wrote:

Btw I reached out to some guys that run Nuon sites. Hopefully something comes from it. Those discs will be a pita to track down otherwise.

Would be nice to. Space Invaders XL and Toshiba Sampler were shared years ago, but both seem to be lost in ages. Bust-A-Move and Crayon Shin-chan were never dumped, AFAIK.

Fair enough on the 4+years, but I don't see anyone else currently taking up the baton to digi/write software for dumping LaserActive discs.

Would be great it people were posting some of these rare dumps on archive.org instead of next-pirate-site-to-be-shut-down.com, I still find it funny that Nuon has an emulator but no roms about lol.

PS: Mods feel free to spin this topic off as "Rare Disc Systems Discussion" or whatnot. We're getting off-topic, but it seems productive to some degree.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Kiss-site-/401 … 5d76e8d858 -- anyone for this rare console? smile One of the discs isn't dumped by TruRip (and we don't have any dumps at all).

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Shipping is the most expensive. ANYONE IN JAPAN? smile

F1ReB4LL, what other rare disc based consoles do you know of?

I added many to the miss list already (need to add TOMY when I find a good game list). http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … yet_dumped

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F1ReB4LL wrote:
user7 wrote:
F1ReB4LL wrote:

This guy seems to do absolutely nothing.

Well I guess he spent three years collect LaserActive discs from people smile hopefully dumping them soon.

Wrong. "Last edited by Nemesis on Mon May 26, 2014 11:31 pm, edited 5 times in total." for the game list, mostly silence afterwards.

I remember this guy is the author of a sega genesis emulator. At least 18 yrs ago, I once used that emulator. And his main purpose is implementing Mega LD system hw emulation. LD-ROM dump is just side program that provide a solution for produce emulation target contents. And I guess his way of obtaining data are all Mega-LD system based. Maybe BIOS reverse engineering involved, then write a homebrew program, load it in MegaLD and swap to the target LD disc, then trigger data reading in the homebrew program, and intercept raw data in LD optical drive module. And I think it's quite implementable for a experienced emulator author. But yes, it's quite time costing. To me, I won't do that to waste my time. I would prefer to do cooking and enjoy the TV drama in spare time than research on vintage hardwares.... =P

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kiss-site
https://web.archive.org/web/20020606031 … /index.htm
http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2000/08/08/04.html
https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2 … /toy02.htm

list
https://web.archive.org/web/20010804215 … /index.htm

suruga-ya
https://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?categor … inStock=On

amazon
https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=sr_tn_i_ … 1508872948

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@ SONIC3D: Quite a rabbit hole to journey down. I'm adding into our miss lists, but any backup of the digital data will require someone with special knowledge to come on board.

Kiss-Site
Thanks for the links sarami. The Kiss-Site looks like yet another console that is more-than-less in Japanese hands if it will ever be preserved. I don't see it being a high-priority obviously, but it's been noted that it exists in our miss list. I don't speak good enough moon to build out a miss list quite yet, but I linked to the resources on the wiki page. http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … #Resources

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I came across two more systems on an old thread on redump forum, although I DON'T think they are applicable to redump, may as well mention them in case someone knows more:

  • Tao iKTV CD - just a karaoke system, no games.

  • Sharp X68000 CD - A floppy disc system, some games were released with Audio CDs as bonus discs, these should fall into the Audio CD category.

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Both were already available for new disc submissions.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)
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But neither have CD based games do they? I could only find Karaoke for Tao and only floppy games for Sharp X68000

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I was told by F1ReB4LL to add them, so I guess he knows more.

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user7 wrote:

only floppy games for Sharp X68000

see

https://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=605&search_word=x68000&inStock=On&restrict[]=media=CD
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user7 wrote:

And a few more failed disc systems:

[*]LaserActive (which uses Laser Discs - part analog and part digital, I assume we would preserve the digital data for these here? Dumping might be super difficult lol!).[/*]

There are also RDI Halcyon and Palcom PX-7. And MSX also has VHD releases.

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[*]Tao iKTV CD - just a karaoke system, no games.[/*]

It has its own line of CDs, needs to be examined. If those are simple Video CDs - no interest, but if they have data tracks with some kind of a program to be run - should be dumped.

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Mil-CD - https://segaretro.org/Mil-CD

Interesting...

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MIL-CDs are very uncommon and pretty expensive.

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https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/142002024001
https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/220005208001
These discs are not so expensive.

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