1 (edited by Gruby 2010-11-27 07:23:34)

I have a problem with latest PlayStation datfile.
The cmpro and PakkIso is not recognized a new spanish characters in my computer.
Cmpro rebuilded the set with this name and PakkIso is not works

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Since I'm no native speaker my English is unfortunately far from perfect, so please excuse any bad grammar and spelling.

Fixed ^^ Thanks for reporting. Please re-download the datfile and try again. iR0b0t implemented a new way of handling special characters yesterday and I converted the entries. That one must've somehow slipped through ^^ Sorry about that.

I found other one
Rugrats en ParÃs - La pelÃcula (Spain)
not have this set, but maybe wrong this chars

Since I'm no native speaker my English is unfortunately far from perfect, so please excuse any bad grammar and spelling.

You were too fast ^^ I fixed that one 1 minute (OK, maybe 5 minutes...) after Mánager de liga tongue

5 (edited by Justin Bailey 2010-11-27 10:59:16)

Mister Amarok Moderator...! smile

Here's a message that is a bit off-topic, but not that much.
If it's too off-topic feel free to delete it, of course.

Anyway, I have a problem. Would you like to be my therapist for a while? I - do - not - bite.

...More seriously smile
I like that you take the time to update, adjust, enhance & perfect the name/title of the games.
Really, I like it. But, there's a big BUT: updating our sets is a total nightmare.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but I'm using clrmamepro and typically, when there are changes in the names, we have to manually edit our .cue files, or download the new ones in your main site... This is not a problem, unless we need to do it for 20+, 50+, or even 100+ games. Yes, there are people that own that many games. It's - way - too - annoying (not the fact of having a great collection, but the fact that we need to update manually so many games).

Anyway, I know that you are supposed to be the therapist, but let me try to help:

You current naming scheme looks like that:

Andretti Racing (USA)

  • Andretti Racing (USA) (Track 1).bin

  • Andretti Racing (USA) (Track 2).bin

  • Andretti Racing (USA) (Track 3).bin

  • Andretti Racing (USA) (Track 4).bin

  • Andretti Racing (USA) (Track 5).bin

  • Andretti Racing (USA) (Track 6).bin

  • Andretti Racing (USA).cue

Fortunately, each time you are updating the name (ex: "Andretti Racing (USA)" becomes "Andretti Racing (USA) (v1.0)"), clrmamepro fixes it automatically for you. But, the main problem is the .cue file: you need to edit it manually, or re-download the correct one in your main site. So far so good. But as I said, doing it for many games is awful.

So, why not having that naming scheme:

Andretti Racing (USA)

  • Andretti Racing (USA).cue

  • Track 01.bin

  • Track 02.bin

  • Track 03.bin

  • Track 04.bin

  • Track 05.bin

  • Track 06.bin

Or maybe:

Andretti Racing (USA)

  • Track 00.cue

  • Track 01.bin

  • Track 02.bin

  • Track 03.bin

  • Track 04.bin

  • Track 05.bin

  • Track 06.bin

...Do you see why? Those crazy .bin file names will never need to be updated, and so the .cue file will always be valid!
Is it a solution coming from a genious mind? Well, I don't think so, because if it was, you would have done it that way.
So... why? Why so much hate? We love you, so why? smile

Drive: Plextor PX-708A (Correction offset: +30)
Drive: TSSTcorp - DVDWBD SH-B123L (Correction offset: +6)

Hey Mr. Bailey, you're a scary, scary guy, aren't you? tongue

Seriously, I understand the problem. I thought about this myself and I know how annoying it can be to deal with the cue sheets.

First of all, let me tell you that I'm not the one who has to decide on stuff like this. I do little more than adding and fixing DB entries, occasionally helping people with their dumping problems and giving suggestions on how to improve the project. You'd have to talk to one of the admins, preferably iR0b0t - he's the main guy behind the site's development. But I don't think you'll have much luck convincing him.

Game titles or languages usually really don't change all that often. It's not like you have to edit 10 cues every day. Maybe it's a little busier than usual at the moment, but normally it's enough to scan your set once a month or so, even if you have, say, a full PSX set.

Use a good editor, become familiar with its search & replace function and have a proper cue within seconds smile Alternatively, if you have to do a lot of fixing, you can download a cue sheet archive here. It's a zip file containing all the redump cues. Open it with WinRAR or whatever you're using and simply drag the updated cues into your game folders. Unfortunately, all the cues in the zip are in one folder (one per system), so you can't simply extract the zip and have it overwrite your old cues. Maybe you can convince iR0b0t to do a modified version with all the cues being in individual subfolders. You'd just have to extract the zip into your dumps folder then and let it overwrite all the cues with the most recent ones. About as convenient as it gets smile

Anyway, back to topic. In my opinion having "proper" track names instead of a generic "Track xx.bin" has some advantages, the most obvious being consistency with the DVD dumps. DVDs don't have tracks, so you'll want to put the game title into the file name (you can't have 20x "DVD Image.iso" in one folder). Of course, you could also create a folder for every game and have the game title there, but many people (including myself) don't want to create separate subfolders for every individual file.

I hope this makes some sense to you. Everything I've said is just my personal opinion. Maybe other mods or admins think differently about this, I don't know smile

I like Justin's idea, but i have a question too. if i try to match a game and scan it, and cmp named it track01, how do i know what it is? unless i use the rebuilder i cant know.

@amarok, you cant scan dvd files in one folder anyway. unless they are ziped. dvd naming is diferent case.

What if I don't want to scan them but still have the "official" naming? smile

9 (edited by Justin Bailey 2010-11-27 12:28:31)

I'm not that scary actually wink

Fixing the .cue files of all the Sega Saturn games lately ("1M", "2M" ...etc added to many japanese games?) was a lot more scarier than my 7 different personalities. But I'll talk about my personalities later.

Yes, I may as well download the full pack of .cue files, and manually find a replace them smile

I still fail to see why even a single data track or image should have the name of the game: after all, it's located in a folder, that contains the name of the game?

@Ghost
clrmamepro automatically creates folders if they are missing, I think? And put the data/audio tracks in it?

Anyway, all the games' data are located inside a folder. That folder name = the title of the game, so I don't see why all the data tracks and/or images inside that folder require also the complete name of the game, unless you explain me why.

(That was my 4th personality talking)

Drive: Plextor PX-708A (Correction offset: +30)
Drive: TSSTcorp - DVDWBD SH-B123L (Correction offset: +6)

I still fail to see why even a single data track or image should have the name of the game: after all, it's located in a folder, that contains the name of the game?

Well it's just more flexible that way. You could put all your games in a single folder ^^

If you put the cue folder inside the set and scan with fix missing files enabled, only the missing cues will be copied, you dont need to do it manualy. at least i think thats how it works, dont remember exactly.

anyway some time ago i went offtopic in a thread i cant remebmer, when we were discussing the names of dupes. instead of serial numbers or (alt) it was changed to crc. i said maybe its better to use the database entry number like "Mortal Kombat 3 (Europe) (2135)"

extending that a name like "track 01 (2135)" etc will eliminate the same names and give you indication what it is.

just saying  big_smile

If you put the cue folder inside the set and scan with fix missing files enabled, only the missing cues will be copied, you dont need to do it manualy. at least i think thats how it works, dont remember exactly.


Oh...! If it does, then it'll be perfect for me.
You are right, I *think* it'll do it that way. And thrash the unnecessary .cue files. Woohoo!

And I think that using the crc in a file name isn't a good indication of why this dump is different from another one.
I liked the "v1.1" kind of thing, but sometimes it's not obvious or just not mentioned in the game's data, so it's just a guess.

Haaaaa, naming conventions, how we love them smile

@Amarok
I will never do that yikes

Drive: Plextor PX-708A (Correction offset: +30)
Drive: TSSTcorp - DVDWBD SH-B123L (Correction offset: +6)

I liked the "v1.1" kind of thing, but sometimes it's not obvious or just not mentioned in the game's data, so it's just a guess.

The problem is, you can't do this with PC games because often they already have a version number. It'd be confusing to have "Game XYZ (v1.035) (v1.0)" / "Game XYZ (v1.035) (v1.1)".

i said maybe its better to use the database entry number like "Mortal Kombat 3 (Europe) (2135)"

extending that a name like "track 01 (2135)" etc will eliminate the same names and give you indication what it is.

So does the CRC. I don't really see how DB entry number and CRC are different yikes Both can uniquely identify a dump, and that's all that matters.

The volume serial number is clearly not sufficient to tell two dumps apart, there are cases where the checksums are different, but the volume serial number isn't. I've never liked (Alt) either, it seems so artificial. What makes one dump the (Alt) and the other the non-alt, "main" dump, so to say?

14 (edited by ghost 2010-11-27 14:21:33)

amarok wrote:

So does the CRC. I don't really see how DB entry number and CRC are different yikes Both can uniquely identify a dump, and that's all that matters.

when you have a bunch of stuff how do you know what is what?  if there are multiple versions of a game, from the name alone you can't tell. am i the only one with this problem? pick a random image from your hdd and find the db entry. sometimes names change drasticaly  so its not easy.