Topic: Subs indexes from a rip

Hey all, I am currently dumping an IBM CD game from my childhood and I noticed something strange. The disc is completely scratch-free but when I dump it with the newest version of DIC, it spits out 2 versions: the regular rip (that ISOBuster also spat out on my first archival attempt back when) and a "Subs indexes" version. When I use CDmage to check both images, the first version has thousands of errors while the "Subs indexes" version is error-free. My question is which dump should be considered correct and should be submitted.

Below is the disc data that I would have been using to submit in the form:

Title: Sheila Rae, the Brave
Disc Number/Letter: N/A
Disc Title: N/A
Catagory: Games
Region: USA
Languages: English
Serial: 5339911
Mastering Ring (Label Side): 13630    87 (8063) 5339920 ADCA
Mastering SID Code (Label Side): IFPI L871
Mould Sid Code: IFPI 8155
Toolstamp or Mastering Code: 
Barcode:
Errors Count: 98266
Subs Errors Count: 0
Comments: N/A
Contents: N/A
Version: 
Edition/Release: Original
Primary Volume Descriptor:

0320 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 31 39 39   .............199
0330 : 36 30 31 31 30 31 36 32  36 31 32 30 30 00 31 39   6011016261200.19
0340 : 39 36 30 31 31 30 31 36  32 36 31 32 30 30 00 00   96011016261200..
0350 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0360 : 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................
0370 : 00 01 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00   ................

Copy Protection: N/A

Cuesheet:

FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 1).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 2).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 3).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 4).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 5).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 6).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 7).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 8).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Track 9).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00

Subs Cuesheet:

FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 1).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 01 MODE1/2352
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 2).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 3).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 4).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 04 AUDIO
    INDEX 01 00:00:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 5).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 05 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 6).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 06 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 7).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 07 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 8).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 08 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00
FILE "Sheila Rae, the Brave (USA) (Subs indexes) (Track 9).bin" BINARY
  TRACK 09 AUDIO
    FLAGS PRE
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:02:00

Write Offset: 0

Dat:

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Subs Dat:

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Re: Subs indexes from a rip

Normally, this indicates some discrepancy between the track addresses in the TOC and in the subchannels, so, it splits the dump into tracks once according to the TOC and once according to the subchannels.

But in this case, it seems to be some DIC bug.

Re: Subs indexes from a rip

Is there any suggestion as to which version of the dump I should submit? As I think I mentioned, a second dump produced identical results. The sub version seems "most correct" error-wise, though I have not verified that both work identically on install or anything of the sort.

Re: Subs indexes from a rip

I think you should show the logs and sub to sarami to find out and solve all the dumping issues before submitting anything.

Re: Subs indexes from a rip

Okay, I'll post on the DIC thread.