1 (edited by Hiccup 2016-02-05 12:55:00)

Topic: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Because there are some discs that will probably never be dumped again.

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Those would be appropriate for the wiki lists

I don't know who you'd have to bug to get them added though...

3 (edited by Hiccup 2017-02-16 20:53:17)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

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Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Do you mean those many group release dumps?

I am assuming you do mean it, right?
The answer would be a NO!

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5 (edited by Hiccup 2016-01-17 09:25:06)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

I see. I'll add them to Discs not yet dumped list.

Could I have a wiki account so I can do this (or could someone add them for me)?

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Dumps without any ring info whatsoever makes up about 90% of the PlayStation 1 list due to the dark CD backs (you need a flashlight to be able to read them).

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Heihachi_73 wrote:

Dumps without any ring info whatsoever makes up about 90% of the PlayStation 1 list due to the dark CD backs (you need a flashlight to be able to read them).

I think there's a difference between the proper PSX dumps provided by the dumpers and the random scene isos.

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

I gather redump doesn't subscribe to the "bad dump is better than no dump" line of thinking?

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

I don't think there would be any point in keeping records of bad dumps

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

No dump is better than bad or fake dump.

There is no reasoning of any kind for the other that makes sense for preservation.

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11 (edited by Hiccup 2016-02-04 11:53:52)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

What about things that are unlikely to ever be dumped again (i.e. Zelda TP E3 demo)?

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Hiccup wrote:

What about things that are unlikely to ever be dumped again (i.e. Zelda TP E3 demo)?

Isn't that a card for NintendoDS ?

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13 (edited by Hiccup 2016-02-04 18:04:27)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

No.

I am referring to this to this:
Legend_of_Zelda-Twilight_Princess_E3_Demo_USA_Wii-iND (ind-legend-of-zelda-tp-e3-demo)

The DS card is just a video.

14 (edited by Nexy 2016-02-05 06:37:47)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

If someone cannot get hold of the real disc, then no.

No-Intro is not about preservation, they are about wares. When it comes to scene releases they mutilate them, so again no preservation there.

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15 (edited by Hiccup 2016-02-05 13:16:21)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Is redump's objective to only list known good dumps? Why is that?

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Yes it is, because you can be sure of a good dump, and the 2nd good dump will be the same and the third and fourth.

And no, were not just listing "good dumps" we go that step further, we get the original follow the dumping guides and produce hopefully a good dump, the only time we even get to find out when we have a dump in the db that is bad is when someone comes along with the same disc dumps it expecting to find a certain value for the dump, and comes across something different, then the moderators set about finding out which dump is bad (if any) or whether their is actually an (Alt) version that is also a good dump.

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Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

We are not just listing in meaning collecting all ever found anonymous dumps spread over the internet. We are dumping and listing just our own stuff, not any others' work nor unverified foreign dumps.

I think the question of "why" is self-explaining.

ohh, and thanks tossEAC for your input smile

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Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

No probs smile

We don't like being anything other than nice to newbies, but if you want to rattle are cages asking for scene release intergration, because some rare Zelda game, we haven't dumped, is only available in scene format, that's no worries, to most normal people, as we know one day it will come along, and the quickest way for it to come along is for someone who is madly in love with the E3 Zelda Demo, seriously, is to go out and buy it, to dump for redump, of course.

Having a change of faith, to our whole religion, over 1 silly demo, never in a zillion Zelda years.

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19 (edited by Hiccup 2016-02-05 20:43:28)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

EDIT: okay then.

20 (edited by tossEAC 2016-02-05 20:49:27)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

In other words it would be easier to buy the rare demo that you desire and dump it properly for redump, rather than even mention scene releases, and what we should do, its what you should do, buy and dump the games you think should be @ redump, not the other way around.

I personally have no interest in Zelda, but if it fell into my lap I would dump it anyway, what I like is shoot-em-ups, and their are loads redump need dumping, but I wouldn't want to see redump add scene releases because I know 9/10 cats hate them, so rather than ask for scene dumps, I would prefer to go and buy the games and do it the proper way. Even if it is harder to do that, due to $$$, that is the proper way.

Your best bet is to make lists of games you would like to see dumped and hope someone thinks the same way as you, and then goes out and buys what is on your list to have them added to redump. I would see no one complaining over that approach.

Sorry if I sound blunt and to the point, but that's the way it is.

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21 (edited by Hiccup 2016-02-05 20:50:44)

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

If I ever buy it, I will post the info etc from it to here. smile
Also, I will soon post the info on the Wii discs I currently own.

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Sound case closed, no hard feelings, its hard to answer some ones difficult question, not to upset them at the same time, and still make your self as clear as can be, I hope we have done this, just made it clear why we don't want scene stuff adding. As I said, no hard feeling, just trying to answer your difficult question, without it taking forever.

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Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Hiccup wrote:

Also, I will soon post the info on the Wii discs I currently own.

We welcome new dumps and info, that's more like it, but no faking (promise smile)

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Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

I'm trying to dump my Wii Sports (Europe) (v1.01) disc with CleanRip, but I have come across some problems. This is what I did:

  • Load cleanrip

  • Try to use USB, but it doesn't detect it

  • Use two SD cards instead. But it doesn't create a log and only creates four chunks.

is this normal? What should I do?

Re: Can things without redump or ring info be in database?

Bump. Can someone help with this?