Topic: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

Hi,

Continuing to dump my CDI collection, I came to another issue.

I'm trying to dump this Disc:
Hot and Cold : A collection of Belgian Jazz from the Igloo Label.
code: 8000.004
some details from Discogs https://www.discogs.com/Various-Hot-And … se/6486599

This is a very interesting one.
As far as I can tell, it contains a data track because it launches some interactive software on a real CDI and on emulator.
While browsing the software, the music (audio tracks) play in the background.
Looking at the back of the disc, I see a first track (probably the data), bounded by two large gap-like (clearer) bands and then 10 music tracks separated by classique thin gap lines.
This is the only CDI disc I own  that clearly shows both data and audio tracks, all my previous dumps only showed a single data track (and a single track is produced by the dumping).

The disc cover clearly mentions 10 audio tracks of around 5 minutes.

Old music CD drives and old consoles (I tried on a sega mega-cd) will "see" only 10 audio tracks, no data tracks.
This is funny because there IS 11 tracks ! and for instance mega-cd games having a first data track show this data track in the music player of the console (as do old music CD players) even if playing it does nothing. Here only 10 tracks, no data track.

DiscImageCreator only produces 10 tracks.
The 1st track is much larger than all other tracks (data+1st audio track ?)
Here is a link to its output.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/kbhxs4qj2q8km … 4.zip?dl=0

Any idea what to do next to get a data track and 10 audio tracks ?
Or this this a normal behaviour ?

Thanks !

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

Sounds like a CDI Ready disc, where the data track is merged with second audio track. DIC should be ready for that and would output 10 tracks on that, and there would be a large pregap, like here: http://redump.org/disc/51693/

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

You need to d/l the most recent version of DIC for the proper dump.

4 (edited by benclaff 2018-05-16 22:19:22)

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

Thanks for the replies. So I probably got the expected dump ( i used recent DIC version), with a mixed 1st track as you mentionned.

Interestingly, this disc has the cdi logo, not the cdi ready logo.
I attached anyway the DIC logs in the post if something had to be checked later.

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

benclaff wrote:

I attached anyway the DIC logs in the post if something had to be checked later.

The logs in the first post are from the March DIC version, which isn't the most recent one (there were CD-i Ready-related fixes a week ago, you should get a different track 1 checksum with the May version).

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

F1ReB4LL wrote:

there were CD-i Ready-related fixes a week ago

I missed that, I will update. thanks.

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

No change in the dump with the new version.
So I will stick to this state.

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

benclaff wrote:

No change in the dump with the new version.

I just want to make sure you got the right DIC version.
It was changed around this time http://forum.redump.org/post/60537/#p60537.

Is your current DIC version past May 7 ?

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

9 (edited by benclaff 2018-05-24 22:30:00)

Re: [CDI] new challenge for DiscImageCreator with a hybrid data/audio CD?

8iR0b0t wrote:

Is your current DIC version past May 7 ?

I dowloaded the test version last week. So yes.
I will post a batch of cdi discs including this one soon.
They will all be based on this recent test version.