I'm waiting to rip my CD (PC game) collection.  I'm mainly hung up by the issue of subs.

Should I:
1.  Ignore them if there's no copy protection that uses them
2.  Dump them with Alcohol or perfectrip
3.  Wait for new dumping tools (just read about these recently: trurip, etc.)

Is there a way to check if there's something interesting at various "levels" of ECM, subs, etc?  I mean, on "normal" discs this stuff is recreated... how do you tell if it is special?  If I'm storing ECM, why not store subs as well?  (only thing I can think of is some dev puts a funny "hello world" type thing on their disc.)

Mainly, I'm just looking for a green light to do just as your guides say, but I don't want to redo it later.

PS:  I've seen mention of a "better" version of perfectrip (an earlier beta?), if true, can anyone link me?

Thanks guys - hope to contribute some more good ol' PC games.

I can give you a tool for dumping the subs. But prepare to wait upto an hour per disc (if no scratches).

I've tested this tool a lot, it works great, but it can be slow. =]

I hope you have a plextor drive, it REALLY makes dumping PC games much easier.

If you have any questions about dumping any certain protection not covered in the guide or the stickies, feel free to ask here or on IRC.

Plextor PX-760A 1.07 (+30) : Plextor PX-716SA 1.11 (+30) : Plextor PX-W5224A 1.04 (+30) : Plextor PX-W4824 1.07 (+30) : Plextor PX-W4012TA 1.07 (+98) : Plextor PX-W1610TA (+99) : Plextor PX-W1210TA 1.10 (+99) : Lite-On LTR-48246S (+6) : Lite-On LTR-52246S (+6) : Lite-On LH-20A1H LL0DN (+6) : BenQ DW1655 BCIB (+618) : ASUS DRW-2014L1 1.02 (+6) : Yamaha CRW-F1 (+733) : Optiarc SA-7290H5 1H44 (+48) : ASUS BW-16D1HT 3.02 (+6)

Yup, I've got a 760.  I'll try anything.

Better to over-dump than under-dump!

Anything without complete lead-in and lead-out is underdump smile

Better fire up my trusty portable SEM and get the real story! 

Haha, actually, no joke, didn't someone try dumping a CD this way once?