1 Topic by yigitsalar (edited by yigitsalar 2026-04-08 22:15:38)

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So I have a disc with only one physical separator. According to !protectionInfo.txt, it has Copy-X:

!protectionInfo.txt wrote:

AOE2TAOK.skeleton.zst/AOE2TAOK.skeleton: copy-X [Check disc for physical ring]

Here's the full dump of the disc, along with the scans: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold … xlqm4XrI0b

Now, since I have ONLY one data track at the end, it falls under the first version that I need to dump, therefore need to follow ringed disc dumping guide. (http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Copy-X)
However, I only saw rings after BoS gave me a warning to check for rings, so I dumped this disc like a general CD, not ringed disc (I don't have access to the hardware to dump ringed disc anyways). The thing is that I got a match from the database: http://redump.org/disc/51889... WHAT??
Is this disc counted as ringed disc? Is the original dump invalid? Do I still need to complete the dump with SOHD-167T or DDU1613?

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Does your dump have any EDC/ECC or C2 errors at all? Because if it's error-free, it shouldn't have any protection.

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MrPepka wrote:

Does your dump have any EDC/ECC or C2 errors at all? Because if it's error-free, it shouldn't have any protection.

No, it didn't. But then why BoS said it has Copy-X? It is also correct about the fact that the disc is being ringed.

4 Reply by MrPepka (edited by MrPepka 2026-04-08 23:42:46)

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Maybe it's detecting some remnants of Copy-X? Where on the disc do you see these physical separators?

5 Reply by yigitsalar (edited by yigitsalar 2026-04-08 23:24:32)

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MrPepka wrote:

Maybe it's detecting some remnants of Copy-X? Where on the board do you see these physical separators?

What do you mean "where on the board"? I have included scans on the first post, if you are asking for that. Please see this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JykfVB … 30klr/view

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I mean "where on the disc" sorry, translation bug xD
The scan you uploaded doesn't show any physical separators, so your disc probably doesn't have this protection.
This is what physical separators look like - https://web.archive.org/web/20220611141 … -l1600.jpg
So no, your disc is not protected

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MrPepka wrote:

I mean "where on the disc" sorry, translation bug xD
The scan you uploaded doesn't show any physical separators, so your disc probably doesn't have this protection.
This is what physical separators look like - https://web.archive.org/web/20220611141 … -l1600.jpg
So no, your disc is not protected

Isn't this a ring: https://drive.google.com/file/d/100gSuL … TS3An/view?
I am asking over and over because I cannot be sure.

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They look like typical scratches on a disc, meaning the disc has been heavily used. In any case, these scratches weren't caused by the disc pressing process, meaning they're not from copy protection.

9 Reply by yigitsalar (edited by yigitsalar 2026-04-09 16:07:29)

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MrPepka wrote:

They look like typical scratches on a disc, meaning the disc has been heavily used. In any case, these scratches weren't caused by the disc pressing process, meaning they're not from copy protection.

So here's the catch: As I said in one of my previous posts, I'm 17 years old. Therefore, I had no experience with any type of CD or DVD whatsoever until I started to add second hand discs to this database.
That being said, as on the example photo, which is also present on the wiki, rings are usually separated by a darker color without smooth transitions, which I will consider further on if I have a chance to obtain any of these ones.
And I want to ask a question: Why using optical discs over time creates this pattern on it?

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Are you talking about scratches? CDs/DVDs get scratched because of improper storage, dust that accumulates on them, etc. There are many causes. You can try to repair these scratches yourself (I recommend the Restore and Replay channel on YouTube; they have guides on how to save a disc from scratches - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_aYfV … wHhMNVO1g) or take the disc to a remanufacturing center (like game shop) that has a remanufacturing machine.

11 Reply by Morlit (edited by Morlit 2026-04-09 16:40:20)

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yigitsalar wrote:

So I have a disc with only one physical separator. According to !protectionInfo.txt, it has Copy-X:

!protectionInfo.txt wrote:

AOE2TAOK.skeleton.zst/AOE2TAOK.skeleton: copy-X [Check disc for physical ring]

Here's the full dump of the disc, along with the scans: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/fold … xlqm4XrI0b

Now, since I have ONLY one data track at the end, it falls under the first version that I need to dump, therefore need to follow ringed disc dumping guide. (http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Copy-X)
However, I only saw rings after BoS gave me a warning to check for rings, so I dumped this disc like a general CD, not ringed disc (I don't have access to the hardware to dump ringed disc anyways). The thing is that I got a match from the database: http://redump.org/disc/51889... WHAT??
Is this disc counted as ringed disc? Is the original dump invalid? Do I still need to complete the dump with SOHD-167T or DDU1613?

False positive. They happen. That's not from a plant that can do Copy-x so just ignore the DRM warning

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MrPepka wrote:

Are you talking about scratches?

I am talking about the photo that I marked: https://drive.google.com/file/d/100gSuL … TS3An/view
There is a separator which I marked it. Red is showing it, and blue is overlapping it. I am asking for the reason of this so I don't confuse it with actual ringed discs. Is it called scratch, too?

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yigitsalar wrote:
MrPepka wrote:

Are you talking about scratches?

I am talking about the photo that I marked: https://drive.google.com/file/d/100gSuL … TS3An/view
There is a separator which I marked it. Red is showing it, and blue is overlapping it. I am asking for the reason of this so I don't confuse it with actual ringed discs. Is it called scratch, too?

Not Pepka but that's indeed unrelated to DRM. Its just a sign that they didn't use the full disc while pressing data onto it.

14 Reply by yigitsalar (edited by yigitsalar 2026-04-10 23:04:26)

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Morlit wrote:
yigitsalar wrote:
MrPepka wrote:

Are you talking about scratches?

I am talking about the photo that I marked: https://drive.google.com/file/d/100gSuL … TS3An/view
There is a separator which I marked it. Red is showing it, and blue is overlapping it. I am asking for the reason of this so I don't confuse it with actual ringed discs. Is it called scratch, too?

Not Pepka but that's indeed unrelated to DRM. Its just a sign that they didn't use the full disc while pressing data onto it.

Oh, okay. I will start to process this disc to the database.
And there it goes my 100th post on the forum.

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Nice. As i mentioned before they arent to active nowadays. People have migrated to other places.