Topic: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

Tabulator character = ASCII code (9)
Some examples:

http://redump.org/disc/17151/   >   "T-13203H01    *1S*    MADE IN USA"
http://redump.org/disc/17043/   >   "*3S*    T-8133H-50"
http://redump.org/disc/18020/   >   "*3S*    51128    AF.9.51128    B"
http://redump.org/disc/17365/   >   "%SOULFIGHTER    Z9B18C"
http://redump.org/disc/17468/   >   "MK-51021-0018SS EMI CD HOLLAND    @ 3"
http://redump.org/disc/19213/   >   "CDD7062 R880DCED(2) ∙    IFPI L123    ∙ MASTERED BY NIMBUS ∙"
http://redump.org/disc/20829/   >   "Sony DADC   A0100386089-A511   17"

Generally replacing two and more white space signs with a tabulator.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

usurper, i think you misunderstand the meaning of the ring fields in edit form:

each unique ring hast two rows, the first one is layer0 or CD/DVD5, the second row is for layer1 or discs with extra ring information.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

And when you need to enter more than 1 ringcode, add the rest into the comments or into some post in the "dumps" section along with the dump info - since you can't add more than 1 ringcode per add/edit session, the additional empty field will appear only on the next edit.

4 (edited by DJoneK 2011-08-11 23:14:30)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

Could you elaborate a bit more on how exactly to do this.  I'm such a noob. big_smile

EDIT:  NM.. Notepad to the rescue.  Totally forgot about copy/paste mechanics.  hmm

5 (edited by themabus 2011-08-12 06:34:15)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

ah, i missed this too

how to make ring green?
it looks like i have a matching WOW expansion, even IFPI's are the same
which is pretty strange IMHO
but i don't see an option to set color
do i add it 2nd time exactly the same and it will group and become green?

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

Nope, to make it green certain admins can set a checkbox. You need to prove the ringcode is correct - make a scan of it.

7 (edited by themabus 2011-08-25 15:13:01)

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could you, please, insert line in disc submission form to separate rings per disc?

edit:
maybe in view too, it's kinda weird looking now
http://redump.org/disc/18613/
all ring fields blend togeather
in this case they can be distinguished by pattern
but if rings were more alike it would be a mess IMHO

labels in edit form would be great too

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

iR0b0t wrote:

usurper, i think you misunderstand the meaning of the ring fields in edit form:

each unique ring hast two rows, the first one is layer0 or CD/DVD5, the second row is for layer1 or discs with extra ring information.

Ok, so this means for new unique ring information i have to chose a new "set" fields in the edit form right? So if there is just  one ring info per disc i have to leave the second line empty right?

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

usurper wrote:

So if there is just  one ring info per disc i have to leave the second line empty right?

yes )

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

10 (edited by usurper 2011-08-31 16:11:01)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

I have generally some problems understanding to add proper ring codes in special cases.
Like on Xbox or Xbox360 we have DVD-9 images with 2 layer ring code information, which I understand now that they have to be added as a pair which sounds reasonable. But those discs also got 2 mould codes; one on the data side and one on the label side.
How do I add the mould codes? Data side I always added to one of the two layer ring codes, but what to do with the mould code from the label side? I used to use a new row for it as shown here: http://redump.org/disc/20641/ but I saw on the other approvals from ir0b0t from today, that he was adding each mould code to each layer ring code information: http://redump.org/disc/20693/
Using this way you will never see, what is the mould code on data and what is the mould code on the label side. Is that information useful in any way?

Additionally I would like to know on how to proceed with discs (e.g. some PS2 Platinum discs), that got ring information on the label side. Should I pair this with the ones from data side or should I use a new dedicated line for it, which makes more sense imho. A special case would be a PS2 DVD-9 Platinum with 3 “lines” of ring information, meaning 2 layer ring codes and one ring code from label side.

Last point… Nintendo Discs. NGC and Wii Discs got a mould code on label side as well. Should I pair them with the data side ring code info or separated; e.g.
http://redump.org/disc/20084/
Again, this will be difficult for Wii DVD-9 discs.

I would like to get the right understanding for ding the ring information the correct way.

Thanks!

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

generally,
data side = Layer0
cover side = Layer1

if you examine the ring codes using a magnifying glass they are burned/ached on different sides of the disc.

mould code from the data side belongs to layer0, label side to layer1.

ps2/psx/psp discs or generally discs which have a "dummy" ring code should be added using the layer1 line for this information.

i hope everything is clarified now )

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

Can someone, please, explain on this sample how to use tabulators?
http://picsee.net/upload/2013-04-04/thumbnail/18db0b380dee.jpg

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

UL 021689R<TAB>UEP-CD RUSSIA<TAB>www.disc.ru
Both IFPIs go to IFPI fields.

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

F1ReB4LL thank you! I thought it's  much more difficult.

Another question - what about images and logos in ringcodes? I have discs with this images in rings:
http://www.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/oldfiles/sonopress%20logo2.gif http://www.star-force.ru/images/Image/logos/lasercraft.gif http://www.mobygames.com/images/i/13/04/1193604.jpeg
and also specials chars (stars etc).
Should I submit it (and how?) or just ignore it?

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

Single stars inside the ringcodes - yes, needed. Multiple stars like "* ** *******" aren't needed. Try to PM iRr0b0t about the logos. We usually include "Mastered by Nimbus" logo as text into the ringcode field, so these ones should be also included at the very end of the ringcode, IMO. Or, at least, in the comments.

iR0b0t: maybe one more field is needed for these logos? Mastering Code, Mastering Logos (?), Mastering SID Code, Toolstamp, Mould SID Code, Additional Mould Text?

16 (edited by usurper 2013-06-27 09:56:07)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

I would like to know/carify if those "+ +" on Xbox1 Ringcodes are part of the Mastering Code (Ringcode) or part of the Toolstamp.
I just noticed that Enker is adding them as part of the Mastering Code (Ringcode) while others (including me) are setting them as part of the Toolstamp.
Any thoughts so we can align on it and having them added all by the same way?

http://redump.org/disc/13566/ vs. http://redump.org/disc/13536/

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

IIRC they are laser burned therefore should be part of the Mastering Code (Ringcode).

And i think there should be a [TAB] between both plus signs, as they seem to be there for alignment of the toolstamp numbers (auto focus for the machine when aching/stamping).

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

18 (edited by Enker 2013-06-27 17:15:36)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

They are part of the mastering code, but they don't always have a space between them. Most should have [TAB], but the dumpers will need to confirm if there is a space or not.

Here are some scans for reference:
No space
TAB

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

usurper wrote:

if those "+ +" on Xbox1 Ringcodes

Seems to be valid for discs/layers mastered by IFPI LB48 factory only, not 100% sure though.

PX-760A (+30), PX-W4824TA (+98), GSA-H42L (+667), GDR-8164B (+102), SH-D162D (+6), SOHD-167T (+12)

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

F1ReB4LL wrote:

Single stars inside the ringcodes - yes, needed. Multiple stars like "* ** *******" aren't needed. Try to PM iRr0b0t about the logos. We usually include "Mastered by Nimbus" logo as text into the ringcode field, so these ones should be also included at the very end of the ringcode, IMO. Or, at least, in the comments.

iR0b0t: maybe one more field is needed for these logos? Mastering Code, Mastering Logos (?), Mastering SID Code, Toolstamp, Mould SID Code, Additional Mould Text?

Bumped the thread to highlight this so that everyone can see this. According to F1ReB4LL, the logos of the mastering ring code must be placed at the very end of mastering ring codes, this way: blablablablablabla[TAB][LOGO]

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Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

I vote for storing them unformatted. There are some unusual codes that would be nice to preserve.

Examples
Mastering SID: Some XBOX USA discs have IFPI130
Mould SID: Some PS2 USA discs have 72xx or IFPI 72xx

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

My suggestion: WYSIWYG

Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes

axisleon wrote:

My suggestion: WYSIWYG

Real WYSIWYG = scan.