• nj7
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Topic: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

Hot Shots Golf
MD5:5f7999aa2e7bfaaaa982af118dfbb83d
SHA1:2d766ec4d7337175bf770049b394f9f7c328302e
CRC32:19f776a1
edonkey/emule:6e12c2cda2a5a19749ccecdc0e97e0d5
Size:289 MB (303,539,712 bytes)
EXE Date: 1997-10-10
EDC:NO
Edition:Original
Region:USA
DISC ID:SLUS-94188
Barcode: 7 11719 41882 5

Contra Legacy of War

Here is the psxt001z readout:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Nathan>cd C:\

C:\>psxt001z "track 01.iso"
psxt001z by Dremora, v0.21 beta 1

File: track 01.iso
Size (bytes):   74377296
From image:     468812400
Size (sectors): 31623
From image:     199325
EDC in Form 2 sectors: NO
ID: SLUS-00288
Date: 1996-10-27
System area: US NoEDC


C:\>

The EAC log:

Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 8. March 2010, 12:08

Unknown Artist / Unknown Title

Used drive  : TSSTcorpCD/DVDW TS-H652M   Adapter: 1  ID: 1

Read mode               : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache      : Yes
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction                      : 8
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling                                : Appended to next track

Used output format : Microsoft PCM Converter
Sample format      : 44.100 kHz, 16 Bit, Stereo


TOC of the extracted CD

     Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
    ---------------------------------------------------------
        1  |  0:00.00 |  7:03.48 |         0    |    31772   
        2  |  7:03.48 |  3:40.34 |     31773    |    48306   
        3  | 10:44.07 |  3:45.31 |     48307    |    65212   
        4  | 14:29.38 |  3:40.66 |     65213    |    81778   
        5  | 18:10.29 |  4:04.43 |     81779    |   100121   
        6  | 22:14.72 |  3:29.09 |    100122    |   115805   
        7  | 25:44.06 |  3:47.12 |    115806    |   132842   
        8  | 29:31.18 |  3:23.04 |    132843    |   148071   
        9  | 32:54.22 |  2:57.52 |    148072    |   161398   
       10  | 35:51.74 |  3:26.33 |    161399    |   176881   
       11  | 39:18.32 |  3:34.23 |    176882    |   192954   
       12  | 42:52.55 |  1:24.70 |    192955    |   199324   


Track  2

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track02.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 89.7 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC EDBE0659
     Copy OK

Track  3

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track03.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 77.7 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC A671A496
     Copy OK

Track  4

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track04.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 91.7 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC CBF06349
     Copy OK

Track  5

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track05.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 89.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 6FEEF988
     Copy OK

Track  6

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track06.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 96.5 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 3F3D5444
     Copy OK

Track  7

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track07.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 81.5 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC C3DFF25B
     Copy OK

Track  8

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track08.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 99.8 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC A7769A8C
     Copy OK

Track  9

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track09.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 89.2 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 4FB4175B
     Copy OK

Track 10

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track10.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 97.7 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC A3ACAE44
     Copy OK

Track 11

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track11.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 72.8 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC FB9C01F4
     Copy OK

Track 12

     Filename C:\Users\Nathan\Desktop\contra\Track12.bin

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 83.7 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Copy CRC 30673E2C
     Copy OK

No errors occurred

And the clrmame hashes:

<game name="contra">
        <description>contra</description>
        <manufacturer></manufacturer>
        <rom name="track 01.iso" size="74377296" crc="543381ee" md5="cca2c57b99f417eb6f7c5e3103ba3ec0" sha1="605381caabc3fdfaaf7d03b79cfc8a79140ef957"/>
        <rom name="track02.bin" size="38887968" crc="edbe0659" md5="6150581945b489bce5ddfefc39a252db" sha1="d5c2cf899300364c5643537cfda6ed6a22708491"/>
        <rom name="track03.bin" size="39762912" crc="a671a496" md5="806838d2d20c04b3b65fdf779f4a82c3" sha1="fa0f645fc1bc3b8a19dd14ddb5441a848a6e812a"/>
        <rom name="track04.bin" size="38963232" crc="cbf06349" md5="bfcf2cea48682a915691eb4974a4d0af" sha1="578aac17f5a40b0c22643a2476ef7d230d769e22"/>
        <rom name="track05.bin" size="43142736" crc="6feef988" md5="02efb0d73072220b209574ae6e4ed1c2" sha1="92f755fb4f230002440910a83418c76fd22ce9e4"/>
        <rom name="track06.bin" size="36888768" crc="3f3d5444" md5="5310d0ce0055543b62cd9d272d4fd307" sha1="665aa388ce926d15392e4c04e9db0dbc69fdb6f9"/>
        <rom name="track07.bin" size="40071024" crc="c3dff25b" md5="4555061ff0a3db591007b36217705211" sha1="3f7a980be76da15803c8a2d23361aec68a424c26"/>
        <rom name="track08.bin" size="35818608" crc="a7769a8c" md5="15ad5affaa7d7a0f0e2f51c4f86e961f" sha1="58597b757d45d5246a062223ba30082c34393182"/>
        <rom name="track09.bin" size="31345104" crc="4fb4175b" md5="42a3a258a5fb079c6e72f611d10d36a4" sha1="f9b2c6c7cc5d45299b4a4f027abecba262f7c1e1"/>
        <rom name="track10.bin" size="36416016" crc="a3acae44" md5="cbafb95ae058670ac7870232ff5a683b" sha1="0832326e18df2fcab13c0308410aff384a0de56e"/>
        <rom name="track11.bin" size="37803696" crc="fb9c01f4" md5="eeee1a0895fa1b4ebafe1d93cee6bd07" sha1="266c4e9ca0b2a4e54df158b9fd47c1714287ab1d"/>
        <rom name="track12.bin" size="15335040" crc="30673e2c" md5="5ceffce1d3cbc92c5dbd1e0a8add4e03" sha1="6820a01cadc3a61c7e59c8cfa1625fce3f9b4f64"/>
        <rom name="unknown title.log" size="3985" crc="74dcb441" md5="74d73dafccaae024a45ca7891bace1cd" sha1="7abde9ada1c8c79f57d499bef95308f2e929663e"/>
    </game>

Oh, and it's original with a barcode of 0 83717 1706 7

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

Why has this dump been added? He didn't enable overreading so there might be samples missing at the end of track 12.

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

amarok wrote:

Why has this dump been added? He didn't enable overreading so there might be samples missing at the end of track 12.

The dump is correct, it has been examined by DJoneK and verified......

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

How? Usually the only way to determine if there's data in these samples is to enable overreading. I don't mean to criticize anyone but I really wonder how he was able to verify the data yikes

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

amarok wrote:

How? Usually the only way to determine if there's data in these samples is to enable overreading. I don't mean to criticize anyone but I really wonder how he was able to verify the data yikes

Well, my drive has problems if I enable the option, it gives a sync error if the option is enabled, but I have verified several games without the option and it seems like the drive might automatically overead.....I may get another computer in the next 3 months, in which I promise to redump all my "blue" discs then to make sure......

Last edited by nj7 (2010-03-09 23:47:00)

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

If you get a sync error your drive most likely can't overread. The samples are then filled with 00s. If you are able to match other dumps, they (coincidentally) also have 00s in these samples, either already on the original discs or because the original dumper's drive couldn't overread as well smile

It may seem overly picky but there are cases in which these samples contain data.

Last edited by amarok (2010-03-10 01:05:54)

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

Just look at http://www.daefeatures.co.uk/ for a cheap drive that is able to overread. :-)

I recommend a plextor drive, though. Ebay is a good source big_smile
http://cgi.ebay.com/Plextor-PX760A-18X- … 45f169aa67 (about 5h left from when this post was written wink)

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

Also, a question/comment, even if someone posts a log with "Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : Yes" it doesn't mean their drive supports overreading, thus the dump could still be missing data?  Or is it confirmed that if there is data in the last sector eac will produce an error/warning if the drive doesn't support overreading and this option is checked?

For example

1. I have a GSA-4163B drive that eac's "Detect read sample offset correction" analyzis says "Lead-In Only" and my drive offset is positive, so it does not support overreading to my understanding.
2. I have a GCE-8520B drive that eac's "Detect read sample offset correction" analyzis says "Lead-In and Lead-Out", so it does support overreading to my understanding.

But the GSA drive produces the same .wav files as the GCE drive, even if the GSA drive has the "Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out" checked or unchecked.  There is no warning/errors in the log in either case.

I don't have a disc that I know that there is data in the end so I don't know if warnings/errors show up in the important case but wondering if seeing "Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : Yes" in the log is enough to know there isn't data missing at the end?

Maybe the guide has to be updated to explicitly check if the drive supports overreading instead of just forcing people to check the option and assuming a warning/error will be produced?

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Re: [ADDED] Contra Legacy of War and Hot Shots Golf

No, EAC doesn't necessarily produce an error. I tried numerous combinations of drives and discs with only very few giving me the sync error. Most of the drives just quietly filled the samples with 00s (if the option "Fill missing offset samples with silence was checked!). The good news is that the majority of discs doesn't have any data there at all, so those samples being 00 is correct.

In case of your GCE-8520B, NvrBst, assuming it really is capable of overreading, the overread samples do most likely already contain 00s on the disc, hence the 00s your GSA-4163B puts there automatically -- because it cannot access the actual data -- match.

We cannot be 100% sure if a drive was able to pick up these samples just based on someone's log. All we can do is check whether the drive he used is principally capable of overreading (on daefeatures, as Sotho Tal Ker suggested). It is safe to assume that if the overread option has been checked and the drive is known to support overreading no samples have been lost.

As I said, most discs don't have data in these samples so maybe 90% of times we'll be fine even with "unsupported" drives. In case of a mismatch in the last track, both dumps need to be compared. Anyway, to avoid such cases it's always a good idea to encourage people dumping discs with multiple tracks to check if their drive supports overreading.

Last edited by amarok (2010-03-10 21:20:19)