• From: Hyrule
  • Registered: 2008-01-16
  • Posts: 1,440

I have at least 3 games with bonus audio CD, are they needed and how I have to dump them?

For example, this is the cue for Burning Rangers bonus audio CD:

FILE "Track01.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:00:37
FILE "Track02.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74
FILE "Track03.wav" WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74

Pregap of first track is 2.00+0.37. How can I find offset, if there's one?
And file format: pcm as games or wav?

Here is a try dumping with perfect rip with write offset = 0 and pcm format.

©2006   H & H   s o f t w e r x.
PerfectRip v1.00 a27 log. 24/04/2008 20.12.28

Type    . Time     . Description
------- + -------- + -----------
Info    | 20.12.28 | Current device: PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-760A  1.07
Info    | 20.12.28 | Reported CD read speed (kbytes/s): 7056(40x)
Info    | 20.12.28 | Current read error recovery setting: mode: 00h retry count: 10
Info    | 20.12.28 | Setting of read error recovery to normal with 3 retries was successful.
Info    | 20.12.28 | Detecting subcode/C2 pointers priority..
Info    | 20.12.28 | Detecting and correcting subchannel offset..
Info    | 20.12.32 | Subcode/C2 priority is: main+C2+sub.
Info    | 20.12.32 | Subchannel sector offset: 0
Info    | 20.12.32 | Detection finished.
Info    | 20.12.32 | Main channel read offset correction: -120 bytes (-30 samples)
Info    | 20.12.32 | Main channel write offset correction: 0 bytes (0 samples)
Info    | 20.12.32 | Subchannel offset correction: 0 sectors
Info    | 20.12.32 | C2 error pointers offset correction: -120 bits
Error   | 20.12.32 | Read CD-TEXT command failed!
Info    | 20.12.32 | Reading Media Catalog Number...
Info    | 20.12.32 | MCN: 0000000000000
Info    | 20.12.32 | Reading International Standard Recording Code...
Info    | 20.12.33 | ISRC(track 1) not encoded
Info    | 20.12.34 | ISRC(track 2) not encoded
Info    | 20.12.34 | ISRC(track 3) not encoded
Info    | 20.12.34 | Pregap: 00:00.00 to 00:00.36 (000000 to 000036), duration: 00:00.37 (000037)
Info    | 20.12.35 | Trk 01: 00:00.37 to 04:00.74 (000037 to 018074), duration: 04:00.38 (018038)
Info    | 20.12.35 | Trk 01 format type is CDDA
Info    | 20.12.35 | Index found: 010101000000000002371C9C
Info    | 20.13.00 | Pause found: 010200000173000401011FF9
Info    | 20.13.00 | Current copyright flag !DCP kept
Info    | 20.13.00 | Trk 02: 04:01.00 to 08:38.11 (018075 to 038861), duration: 04:37.12 (020787)
Info    | 20.13.00 | Trk 02 format type is CDDA
Info    | 20.13.00 | Index found: 01020100000000040300989D
Info    | 20.13.23 | Pause found: 010300000173000838130CC5
Info    | 20.13.24 | Current copyright flag !DCP kept
Info    | 20.13.24 | Trk 03: 08:38.12 to 12:53.74 (038862 to 058049), duration: 04:15.63 (019188)
Info    | 20.13.24 | Trk 03 format type is CDDA
Info    | 20.13.24 | Index found: 010301000000000840126C33
Info    | 20.13.45 | Current copyright flag !DCP kept
Info    | 20.13.45 | OL: 12:54.00 to 12:54.00 (058050 to 058050), duration: 00:00.01 (000001)
Info    | 20.13.45 | Setting back of saved read error recovery parameters was successful.
Info    | 20.13.46 | Total corrupt Q subcode blocks: 63
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 00 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 01 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 02 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 03 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Total corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Reading process completed successfully.

CMpro dat

rom ( name "Burning Rangers (J) (Bonus CD) (Track 1).bin" size 42161952 crc f4f739cf md5 9a9ee6d474a619ee573e018c0be907bb sha1 381703c1f89af9179f83701feac8f98d51f6eef7 )
rom ( name "Burning Rangers (J) (Bonus CD) (Track 2).bin" size 48891024 crc 8ba57b13 md5 970fee0f427c9406fc67147509d20b0f sha1 48cb37bb03a8903bec8dfe749d9fb87d8e425a86 )
rom ( name "Burning Rangers (J) (Bonus CD) (Track 3).bin" size 45480624 crc eb5e2556 md5 6fc4e2e2155a084777a0af1a40c071f6 sha1 2d12c79d4d15a799cd06436e21af393b8b69f716 )
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  • From: Macondo
  • Registered: 2007-08-21
  • Posts: 966

would be great, i'd be happy to add them too. they're seldom and perhaps obscure.
tho it's impossible to determine offset directly without data track maybe sometimes there would be similarities to game cd or data would exceed gaps for certain amount of samples.
but we could indeed dump most cds compensating drive offset, like you did.
and for cds that would not fit into this frame we could dump from first meaningful sample or until the last one (shifting frame to cover all data).
and 'offset' field would represent any changes: 0 - drive offset cancellation; -x,+x - shift, so people could verify these cds just like everything else.

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  • From: Hyrule
  • Registered: 2008-01-16
  • Posts: 1,440

I'll post in a separate thread or in this one the other Bonus Audio CD while I find/dump them, then if someone want to add them...

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  • From: Macondo
  • Registered: 2007-08-21
  • Posts: 966

ok
it's up to Dremora though

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  • From: London, UK
  • Registered: 2006-12-21
  • Posts: 285

Rocknroms wrote:

I have at least 3 games with bonus audio CD, are they needed and how I have to dump them?

Well, although some may disagree, I thinkk that each bonus Audio CD is part of the game and should be dumped too.

Rocknroms wrote:

Pregap of first track is 2.00+0.37. How can I find offset, if there's one?

There is no way to detect an offset if disc has no data tracks, so they should with 0 write offset.

Rocknroms wrote:

And file format: pcm as games or wav?

PCM.

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  • From: Hyrule
  • Registered: 2008-01-16
  • Posts: 1,440

Thanks for answer, Dremora! And for big news!

I'll add within minutes some bonus audio CD to the wip!

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  • From: Macondo
  • Registered: 2007-08-21
  • Posts: 966

thank you very much!

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  • Registered: 2006-12-24
  • Posts: 3,847

OST CDs for previous dumps should also be dumped, then. Like this one - http://forum.redump.org/viewtopic.php?id=2114

  • From: Hyrule
  • Registered: 2008-01-16
  • Posts: 1,440

I added these 3 Bonus Audio CD

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Title: Burning Rangers (Bonus CD)
Alt.Title: バーニングレンジャー
Disc-ID: GS-9174P-02140-1F V
Serial: GS-9174

System: Sega Saturn
Media: Mini Audio CD
Region: Japan   
Edition: Original
Manufacter: 1998 Sega
Number of tracks: 3
Write Offset: +0

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Title: Grandia (Bonus CD)
Alt.Title: グランディア
Disc-ID: GAM-SS-01 E
Serial: T-4507G

System: Sega Saturn
Media: Mini Audio CD
Region: Japan   
Edition: Original
Manufacter: 1997 Game Arts / Esp
Number of tracks: 5
Write Offset: +0

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Title: Thunder Force V (Bonus CD)
Alt.Title: サンダーフォースV
Disc-ID: EJ TES001 (PRESS IN SINGAPORE) (232929)
Serial: T-1812G

System: Sega Saturn
Media: Audio CD
Region: Japan
Edition: Special Pack
Manufacter: 1997 Technosoft
Number of tracks: 11
Write Offset: +0

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