I have several CD-i's and Digital Video on CD-i's dumped and ready for upping, except for the ring photos, so still some work to do. I have many more CD-i games etc. dumped and ready to be upped. I will focus on them first then.
1 2020-10-01 22:41:44
Re: [CD-i] Alien Gate 810 0049 > Trouble dumping (15 replies, posted in General discussion)
2 2020-10-01 15:37:55
Re: [CD-i] Alien Gate 810 0049 > Trouble dumping (15 replies, posted in General discussion)
Nothing wrong with either drive, I have dumped and copied numerous other discs in the meantime, I just put this one aside after several tries. The fault is reproduceable with just and only this disc, no others: other discs don't throw any tantrums, so no weird sounds, no hangs, no problems. I have successfully dumped and copied about 15 discs since then and tried the copies on my CD-i player, no problem. Except for some (2) CD-i Ready format discs, where DIC does not come up with the submissioninfo.txt form to fill out (see elsewhere), resulting in a slightly incomplete dump.
The same playability on my CD-i player is true for the CD-i disc Alien Gate: it plays flawlessly in my CD-i player, no hesitation whatsoever, but just nothin' in other drives.
3 2020-10-01 15:21:08
Re: [CD-i] Alien Gate 810 0049 > Trouble dumping (15 replies, posted in General discussion)
So, further explanation of the weird sound, I have made a video of it. It appears under the following circumstances:
- CD-i Alien Gate (as described above) is in a Plextor drive PX755A (built in in a PC through IDE cable), also CD audio connector is connected to the MoBo
- Trying to copy the CD-i disk with (latest) CloneCD
- while the CD-i is being read by CloneCD, unsuccesfully I might add, it stays in the popup window trying to read the disc
- the sound then appears through the monitor speakers after a while, every 12 seconds or so, and after a minute or so it completely stops and CloneCD throws a popup with "enter a disc in the drive..." (right: it does not recognise a disc at all in this case: where it normally just starts dumping any CD-i to an image...)
This is the weird sound
It sounds a bit like the clock at Disney's "It's a small world"(Yikes...).
I have another PC with another Plextor drive, but mounted in an external USB casing connected to the PC, no audio connection. It also makes a weird sound after a while under the same circumstances, that somehow resembles the other sound, but it does not come through the speakers, but seems to come from inside the USB enclosure, either the drive or a piezo beeper trying to mimick the sound.
I have no idea what it is, never heard it before in my life. No other indications whatsoever.
All other copying or dumping software fails to read or recognise this CD-i, but no other invokes this sound, so far.
4 2020-10-01 11:21:54
Re: [CD-i] Alien Gate 810 0049 > Trouble dumping (15 replies, posted in General discussion)
"Well it's not a surprise if Windows doesn't recognize it since that's common for CD-i."
Yes, obviously, well aware, I merely stated that, to reference to the usual modus operandi.
"Do you have the correct drive letter selected?"
After the usual drive, I tried after that on three other drives. Same result. So, yes drive letter correct.
"so we will keep you updated on how it works for him"
That would be nice.
In the meantime, I noticed that the drives produce after a minute or so a very strange mechanical noise, like the arm of the optical reading device (with the laser on it) it trying to go to a place where it cannot go and hits a end-barrier. It is a quite ominous sound, and one one PC there is even an audible (alarm?) sound coming from the speaker I've never heard before. Could it be that regular drives on Windows are fooled into thinking the TOC is elsewhere and that under the OS in a CD-i player this jump is ignored, sine it almost immediately plays there (tested that)? I'll try to record that weird sound and post it here, won't be soon, no time anymore today or tomorrow...
"I have feeling the solution will be very tricky..."
Me too... never had a imaging/copying problem of any CD so far ever before like this... always found a proper drive/fw/sw combo, and have experience since 1985 or so... but, must admit, never copied imaged CD-i's before recently...
5 2020-10-01 00:13:01
Topic: [CD-i] Alien Gate 810 0049 > Trouble dumping (15 replies, posted in General discussion)
The CD-i disc Alien Gate 810 0049 is not recognized by any of my 4 disc reader/writers in 2 different PCs. Not by any program I tried so far. Not DIC, not CDManipulator, not Nero, not CloneCD (latest version), not by many more, not by anything. In fact all programs claim there is no disc at all and on one PC a very strange intermittent funny sound (never heard before) is produced every ten seconds or so. It seems that this disc is protected under windows 10 or something? The kicker is that it plays just fine and without hesitation in my CD-i 210/20 player... never seen this behaviour before, even DIC throws, after pressing the button " .... proceed to dump anyway" immediately a fault tone and does absolutely nothing.
Who knows about "protected" discs like these and how to circumvent this issue?
6 2020-09-26 15:38:05
Topic: [CD-i] vs. [VideoCD] (2 replies, posted in General discussion)
I am not sure how redump VideoCD´s properly: as CD-i or VideoCD (only).
VideCD´s are according to whitebook and CD-i´s according to greenbook, so that implies difference.
However, when dumping a VideoCD, I noticed that at least two tracks are present and DIC makes at least two .bin files accordingly.
When the first is mounted in .e.g. IsoBuster, the content is something like what you see on a CD-i, so with CDI folder,
but also a MPGAV folder in which the missing AVSEQ01.DAT is located (it is actually in track2, so in the second .bin), plus a VCD folder.
Example:
So it actually is also a CD-i. What would be the best category to put in the redump post?
7 2020-09-25 16:05:14
Re: [CD-i Ready] DIC hangs after dumping (8 replies, posted in General discussion)
In the meantime i decided to redump another CD-i Ready disc, "Uncover Featuring Tatjana", and it gives the same errors.
So, no pop-up window for the submissioninfo.txt form to be filled out, plus two missing files:
\UncoverFeaturingTatjana.img_EdcEcc.txt;
UncoverFeaturingTatjana.scm
Therefore, I cannot fully submit this disc for the redump db, even though it is listed in the MIA list, unfortunately.
It is nowhere stated on the disc inlays or disc that it is a CD-i Ready format disc, but merely the logo Compact Disc interactive is mentioned.
The backside of the rear inlay of the disc says it requires a Digital Video Cartridge and Music will also play on most Audio players.
The latter plays fine on a windows 10 machine too.
I can, however, post a link to the inner rings of the disc here, of course (Tnx to JvS):
8 2020-09-24 19:36:45
Re: [CD-i Ready] DIC hangs after dumping (8 replies, posted in General discussion)
OK, I replaced DICUI_1.16-net48 with DICUI_1.17.1-net48 and redumped the CD-i-Ready disc in question again.
Unfortunately the problem persists: no pop-up form to fill out, plus two more problems reported in the log:
"The following files were missing:
locationofredumps\CD-iReadydisc.img_EdcEcc.txt and
locationofredumps\CD-iReadydisc.scm"
No idea what that means actually, also it does not seem worse than before,
since these files were also not generated in any redump of the same disc using DICUI_1.16-net48,
it was merely not reported in the log.
Otherwise, I can still not fill out the info-form.
9 2020-09-24 16:30:07
Re: [CD-i Ready] DIC hangs after dumping (8 replies, posted in General discussion)
Thank you for your answer. I thought I had the latest stable 1.16. So I must update to 1.17.1. I will do and post back with the results.
10 2020-09-23 22:15:53
Topic: [CD-i Ready] DIC hangs after dumping (8 replies, posted in General discussion)
I can't find this particular issue on this forum (yet), so here it goes:
I have one disc (it's CD-i Ready disc) that dumps right up to the end, but hangs where the submission form is supposed to popup where you fill in name and ringcodes etc.
It says in the log window as last line:
"Gathering submission information... please wait!,
usually a popup window to fill out appears, but in this case no popup windows as with any other dumps so far.
0. What to do?
1. What could cause that?
2. How to invoke the form?
Thank you for your patience and answer(s).