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And he was the only coder? Redump has not a single coder now? Well, then, it's no wonder we're in so much trouble here. Alright, well, I guess nevermind this then, at least until you get a new coder.

EDIT: Oh, and then iR0b0t ninja'd me

That SUCKS man. I'm sorry to hear that. But I'm so glad to know that somebody has considered the verification form! I wish I knew anything about website/net coding. I know some C++, some Java, and a hell of a lot of AHK (lol), but I wouldn't know what I'm doing around these systems and it's moot because I'm new here and rightly wouldn't be considered for the position. But thanks for your responses you guys, I just love this website and want to see it make progress.

I'll seriously mull a form template over. Probably harder to come up with one than I think, but if we got one up even for one or two consoles it would be a huge improvement. I think nobody should bother with PC, since it's a gigantic mess, but at least some of the older PlayStation consoles should be possible.

What are you talking about? I'm not submitting dumps because I simply see no reason to go through all the effort of formatting 300+ of them into posts with bold and color markups when the posts will sit there and never get processed. Why do literally days' worth of work that will never see the light of day? It's ridiculous, there's absolutely zero incentive for me to go through all that work. And you're saying that if I triple my personal workload and do a bunch of scans and crap that will give the mods even MORE busywork to process per dump, THEN they will actually want to process the dumps? Not only does that make no sense at all, I didn't know it was my job to make the mods/admins interested in their own project, but I think I'll pass.

I appreciate that you want to look good by defending the mods/admins, but you're defending complacency with a broken system. It doesn't make you look good. There's no onus on you to say "I'm okay with the broken-ass way the project is right now", it's fine if you take a step back, look at it, and go "yeah, wow, this is ridiculous, virtually nothing ever gets done around here." Some people may say you're "complaining", others realize you're just pointing out the truth. But if you think you have some high ground to take and you want to tell me to put more work in so that not only will 300 verification posts will sit for years, but hours worth of scans along with them, then go ahead and make yourself look "good", but I have to tell you, it's not working; you don't look good doing it.

I don't know why you guys are rejecting the simple fact that this can be improved. It's like no one wants to step on anyone's toes and point out that the way things are being done isn't working, but it's not working. HUNDREDS of verifications, if not thousands, sit around endlessly. Why do we think it's chic to say "yeah you'll get used to it" rather than say "hey here's a legitimate idea to fix it"? Lame.

EDIT: By the way, this isn't about anyone being a "nice guy" or otherwise. iR0b0t is a perfectly fine fellow. F1ReB4LL is a perfectly fine fellow. Shout out to all the mods I missed too. I have nothing against you as individuals who have conducted themselves in whatever fashion around others on a message board; you've been courteous enough, and that's all well and good. This just isn't about person A or B being "nice", it's about getting something gosh-darn done around here. We ALL know that this system sucks. Come on, who around here doesn't know that? Show of hands right now. I don't mean this as any kind of attack on anybody and if it's taken that way, then that's a shame and you're missing the point, which is to get this site moving into the future.

I'm not making "threats" or whatever other crap you can call it, I'm giving you a simple truth: given the way the system works right now, there is no reason for me to go through literal DAYS of work on my personal time, which is not endless, to submit a bunch of stuff that could possibly NEVER be processed. Not "processed in three months" or "processed in two years", NEVER PROCESSED. It's completely possible and we all know it. How is it then worth anyone's time to submit anything other than a new disc here? This is all I'm saying. I want submissions to be processed, and not to make myself feel good, or to make blahblah person feel good, to contribute to Redump and get this great site rolling. Hasn't it been long enough that we all complain and nothing gets done? Let's change something, man.

If my data isn't going to get processed, I'm not submitting it, it's as simple as that. And if I'm not going to submit any data other than new discs that will never get verified by anyone else, then I wonder why I'm even here to a certain point. So I don't know what you mean by I have to "live with" it. Does that mean just kind of "exist" on the site and check it from time to time and nothing gets done? I don't know why I'd do that over suggest changes that can actually be implemented with not even that much difficulty and make this entire site move into the future. Why would I not do that and instead just go "oh waaah never gonna change oh well." That's what everyone else is doing and so we stay here. At least I'm trying to get something improved. If they don't improve it, whatever, but I also don't have to "live with" it or accept it, I can just not contribute, because right now not contributing is about the same thing as contributing.

*shrug* I don't know why the mods/admins reject ideas that can literally change their website for an entire positive. It's like they don't want to make any progress. I understand that verifications are boring and that people have lives, that why I'm trying to get something in place that will help remedy that a million times over. When there's little to no response about it, it looks like the mods/admins plain don't care about their own project, so then why should I?

What logs are these? For specific systems only? I don't remember ever being told to supply log information anywhere for verifications on this site.

And what goes into evaluating these logs? Is there a consistent way to spot errors across the logs? Certain tracker sites have a system in place to automatically evaluate EAC logs, because the output is the same all the time, and so certain things should look a certain way. I can't imagine any logs you guys read are any more arbitrary and require specific human attention; couldn't you write something similar to evaluate any of these logs for you?

It's quite a project I think I'm up-to-date with my collection, but formatting the data into a post and submitting it is another story.

Well, this site is called Redump because of verifications, actually, not because you personally dump a disc twice or more like it may seem. The idea behind verifications is that it proves a particular hash for a particular version of a game to be error-free, because for two people to get a matching erroneous hash with two different physical objects dumped by two different physical drives is nigh impossible. Of course, this phenomenon is technically possible, and so the more people that have dumped media and reported the exact same hash, the less we fear that matching errors actually occurred because the odds of that happening become astronomically more impossible with each matching hash.

From what I understand about this site's mentality, you should ideally submit a dump for everything you have. Of course, dumps that verify an image can be viewed as the "most important" (along with new dumps perhaps, because somebody has to have something to verify), but it doesn't devalue dumps for media that already have two matching dumps. It won't make the existing dump more "clean", as you put it, if the existing dump is already clean, but it gives people more assurance that if they get the same hash value for a dump they produce from any particular media, then their dump is clean.

Yep. NTSC-J genteiban games typically have a serial number one value lower than the normal edition, and sometimes the disc EXE file uses the corresponding serial number, but not always. Nippon Ichi games stay true to the actual serial number, but I believe the Shirogane no Torikago genteiban version uses SLPM-66150 in the disc, while its actual number is SLPM-66149.

I believe there was also some weird thing with The Plan where the EXE serial number was completely different than the actual serial number for no apparent reason. I don't have the image anymore, but I'm pretty sure that was the case. EDIT: Aha, it is indeed that game because the number we're reporting as the "serial number" in our entry is actually bogus in one sense, The Plan has the number SLUS-21618 everywhere in writing and only SLUS-21466 in the actual EXE file. We should have an Internal Serial field so this isn't as confusing

Aaaaah, sorry about that, I always forget those identifiers (mostly, I don't care about them). Next time I'll try hard to remember them, although next time will be really far off from now and I'll probably forget by then... Thank you for adding them.

And tossEAC, no problem, Mai-Otome looked like a cool game and I believe I won it for a dollar so I couldn't pass it up.

*crickets chirp*

Now I'm curious about this too. Never seen this on a game before, I took for granted that a blue dot really indicates an unverified game.

Okay, I might PM ir0b0t, but right now I'm leaning towards database glitch based on what tossEAC shared in his recent post and also another experience of mine: way before I even joined this site, I used it for years just to check my own discs and stuff. I very clearly remember a Flame of Recca Final Burning dump being on the site because it was literally the first NTSC-J game I ever got and I remember being excited to see it on the database. But last year, I did an entire database check at some point against my own collection to see if things were kosher between the two, and I discovered that dump had disappeared. I'm actually the one that added it back in.

I'm getting ready to submit some more games (no errors this time, for reals) so I'll just add my Puyo Puyo Fever dump back, no biggie. But if there are database glitches, someone should look into that

? No, Puyo Puyo Fever is a DVD game I dumped like a year ago or so. The wrong offset was done just yesterday for Street Fighter EX3. I discovered Puyo Puyo Fever was missing because I was submitting Puyo Puyo Fever 2, and I was going to be lazy and get most of the Japanese title from the first game's entry - that's when I discovered it wasn't there.

The wrong offset was only because I haven't dumped stuff in like 6 months or something :S but I've since gone over everything I've done recently and I haven't made any other errors.