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hmm if NullDC plays CHD why convert back to GDI?
Anyways it is possible to convert from CHD to GDI at present "IF" you have the proper DAT file for the original GDI dump. If it's a Redump dump then you need their DAT, if it's Tosec you need theirs.
Anyways the CHD must match up with the GDI name in the DAT, then you need to use this app: [Linky]
Give the app your DAT file and the locations where the CHD is, and where you want the resulting GDI to be produced.
@ iR0b0t -
I believe this is the thread I originally referred too.
[Linky]
hmm both groups are dumping 2352 sectors...the only visible difference is the gap data...which is typically all null. Further its...well track gaps...I mean what the hell.
@ GBK666 -
Yeah those few random useless symbols out in the middle of nowhere, that are not read by consoles or emulators are oh so important.
Minus the gap data of Redump, they will return the same SHA-1 values if the games are the same batch.
Puff your chest out over the track gaps if you like...but in reality its useless...and frankly a waste of time grabbing them.
Having a preference to having the gaps represented far as layout...fine...but actually dependent on them...is frankly silly.
I see no reason or sense in wasting peoples time, effort and money over junk data that is not used EVER.
I mean it makes as much sense as demanding the chemical makeup of the shrink-wrap that the game originally came in...it's useless and not necessary.
Thats odd since from what I read here on the forums at least one person has dumped a DC game with httpd-ack and null padded it...which appears from the forum post to have been accepted.
Yet when I purpose the same thing only automated...I get told no harshly.
Ether that method is acceptable or not.
Further both Redump and Tosec put this information and binaries out in public...so exactly whats wrong with using this stuff? Less it's simply a matter of ego...which really is the only way I see this.
Question if I convert Redump DC over to Tosec DC and find the match's are you guys going to pull those from the database?
Hell nether you guys or Tosec are interested in actually getting shit done...I got like 30 new dumps sitting over there and not a pip out of anyone.
Why the hell should anyone bother giving aid to you guys or tosec?
Yeah I found that, however I found posts also stating that there was some bs data showing up in the gaps as well...that you guys are trying to grab...at least according to that post.
I guess I should be more to the point...If I did create converted dumps would they be accepted? I know well enough how to do things...just trying to avoid some trial and error...and ultimately possible rejection.
Is it possible to convert between dump styles?
From what I've loosely understood is that non-null data is the same. The difference arises from Redump having null data prefixed or appended, and index entries adjusted appropriately.
If this is indeed the case I can probably write an AutoIt script to make the proper adjustments to convert Tosec to Redump...and ideally vise versa.
The idea of course is to get both groups efforts completed as soon as possible...and to reduce duplication of effort.
So if this is possible what are the test conditions?
Example:
<Track 1 Data> = 00:00:00
-- If Track 1 End Point Does Not Equal Track 2 Start Point Then Prefix Null To Track 2 & Adjust Track 2 Start Point
<Track 2 Audio>
<Track 3 Data> = 10:00:00
-- If Track 3 End Point Does Not Equal Track 4 Start Point Then Prefix Null To Track 4 & Adjust Track 4 Start Point
<Track 4 Audio>
-- If Track 5 Is Audio Then If Track 4 End Point Does Not Equal Track 5 Start Point Then Prefix Null To Track 5 & Adjust Track 5 Start Point
-- If Track 5 Is Data Then If Track 4 End Point Does Not Equal Track 5 Start Point Then Append Null To Track 4
<Track 5 Audio>
-- If Track 6 Is Audio Then If Track 5 End Point Does Not Equal Track 6 Start Point Then Prefix Null To Track 6 & Adjust Track 6 Start Point
-- If Track 6 Is Data Then If Track 4 End Point Does Not Equal Track 6 Start Point Then Append Null To Track 5
<Track 6 Data>
....
Is that the correct conditions or is it different?
Thanks...however development is now closed, as the application is more or less pointless since there are already other apps out there.
Take care.
Hi themabus,
I'll certainly work in your suggestions.
I really hadn't thought much about sectors originally...as I thought folks could just enter how many they wanted in the Frames section of the Time Based (Amount)...but if they wanted to use more than 74 it would violate the rule for that field...and doing the math to work the value into minutes and seconds defeats the purpose of the app...to be dead simple to use.
Well here is what it looks like at present:
Okay I mentioned in a prior thread that I was toying with creating some new scripts geared at Optical Binary Image Manipulation.
Well here is the first prototype of a UI for one of the scripts.
However I'll likely change the "Data Type" from Radio controls to a ComboBox to simplify the UI...that said everyone is welcome to make suggestions on how to present the UI.
Well should have everything tied together by tomorrow sometime, but I'll welcome suggestions for a week from now...just keep in mind basic controls...this is AutoIt not C#, so no WPF. 
Thanks for the reply Rocknroms.
Hehe I'm curious as to what the "Other?" method is that someone voted for...hehe guess I'm going to learn something new.
I was just wondering whats the preferred method of markup for gaps in single or multi asset CUE files?
I'm toying around with scripts to create CUE's, Join files based on CUE's, Split files based on CUE's,...silly stuff anyways.
I mean, you could do something wrong (like the case I've mentioned). Different people have less chances to do something wrong in a same way.
Well true enough, however ideally I'll side step such mishaps. Hopefully with the AutoIt script I'll be writing it will remove a lot of the human error involved for myself and others.
Yes, confirmed (I tried it too) on NullDC. GDI is some kind of cue so I haven't ever understand the doubt about working or not.
Heh well the doubt springs from never having tried it ones self.
Heh thats okay...it was figuratively and not literal.
Below is a list of what I have USA game wise that is in my mind able to be dumped...I got 6 or 8 others that have to be sent in for cleaning as they are in really rough shape.
18-Wheeler: American Pro Trucker
4x4 EVO
AeroWings
AeroWings 2: Air Strike
AirForce Delta
Alien Front Online
Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare
Armada
Army Men: Sarge's Heroes
Atari Anniversary Edition
BANG! Gunship Elite
Blue Stinger
Bomberman Online
Bust-a-Move 4
Buzz Lightyear of Star Command
Caesars Palace 2000: Millennium Gold Edition
Cannon Spike
Capcom vs. SNK
Carrier
Centipede
Championship Surfer
Charge 'N Blast
Chicken Run
ChuChu Rocket!
Coaster Works
Confidential Mission
Conflict Zone
Crazy Taxi
Crazy Taxi 2
D2
Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX
Daytona USA
Dead or Alive 2
Death Crimson OX
Demolition Racer: No Exit
Dino Crisis
Disney's 102 Dalmatians: Puppies to the Rescue
Disney's Dinosaur
Draconus: Cult of the Wyrm
Dragonriders: Chronicles of Pern
Ducati World Racing Challenge
Dynamite Cop!
Ecco the Dolphin: Defender of the Future
ECW: Hardcore Revolution
ESPN International Track & Field
Evolution 2: Far Off Promise
Evolution: The World of Sacred Device
Expendable
F1 World Grand Prix
F355 Challenge: Passione Rossa
Fatal Fury: Mark of the Wolves
Fighting Force 2
Flag to Flag
Floigan Bros.: Episode 1
Frogger 2: Swampy's Revenge
Fur Fighters
Gauntlet Legends
GigaWing
Grand Theft Auto 2
Grandia II
Gunbird 2
Gundam Side Story 0079
Heavy Metal: Geomatrix
Hidden & Dangerous
Hoyle Casino
Hydro Thunder
Illbleed
Incoming
Industrial Spy: Operation Espionage
Iron Aces
Jeremy McGrath Supercross 2000
Jet Grind Radio
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
KISS Psycho Circus: The Nightmare Child
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Looney Tunes Space Race
Maken X
Marvel vs. Capcom: Clash of Super Heroes
Marvel vs. Capcom 2
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX
Maximum Pool
MDK 2
Metropolis Street Racer
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits: Vol. 1
Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits: Vol. 2
Monaco Grand Prix
Mortal Kombat Gold
Mr. Driller
Ms. Pac-Man: Maze Madness
MTV Sports: Skateboarding Featuring Andy Macdonald
Namco Museum
NBA 2K
NBA 2K1
NBA 2K2
NBA Hoopz
NBA Showtime: NBA on NBC
NCAA College Football 2K2: Road to the Rose Bowl
NFL 2K
NFL 2K1
NFL 2K2
NFL Blitz 2000
NFL Blitz 2001
NFL QB Club 2001
NFL Quarterback Club 2000
NHL 2K
NHL 2K2
Nightmare Creatures II
Omikron: The Nomad Soul
Ooga Booga
Outtrigger
PenPen Pen Pen Tricelon
Phantasy Star Online
Phantasy Star Online Ver. 2
Plasma Sword: Nightmare of Bilstein
POD: SpeedZone
Power Stone
Psychic Force 2012
Q*bert
Quake III Arena
Railroad Tycoon II: Gold Edition
Rayman 2: The Great Escape
Razor Freestyle Scooter
Re-Volt
Ready 2 Rumble Boxing
Record of Lodoss War
Red Dog: Superior Firepower
Reel Fishing Wild
Resident Evil -- CODE: Veronica
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3: Nemesis
Rippin' Riders Snowboarding
Roadsters
San Francisco Rush 2049
Seaman
Sega Bass Fishing
Sega Bass Fishing 2
Sega GT
Sega Marine Fishing
Sega Rally Championship 2
Sega Smash Pack: Vol. 1
Seventh Cross: Evolution
Shadow Man
Shenmue
Silent Scope
Silver
Skies of Arcadia
Slave Zero
Sno-Cross Championship Racing
Soldier of Fortune
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
Sonic Shuffle
Soul Calibur
Soul Fighter
South Park: Chef's Luv Shack
Space Channel 5
Spawn: In the Demon's Hand
Spec Ops II: Omega Squad
Speed Devils
Speed Devils Online Racing
Spider-Man
Spirit of Speed 1937
Sports Jam
StarLancer
Star Wars: Demolition
Star Wars: Episode I: Jedi Power Battles
Star Wars: Episode I: Racer
Street Fighter Alpha 3
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
Street Fighter III: Double Impact
Striker Pro 2000
Stupid Invaders
Super Magnetic Neo
Super Runabout: San Francisco Edition
Surf Rocket Racers
Suzuki Alstare Extreme Racing
Sydney 2000
Tee Off
Tennis 2K2
Test Drive 6
Test Drive Le Mans
Test Drive V-Rally
The Grinch
The House of the Dead 2
The King of Fighters: Dream Match 1999
The King of Fighters: Evolution
The Last Blade 2: Heart of the Samurai
The Next Tetris: On-Line Edition
The Ring: Terror's Realm
Time Stalkers
TNN Motorsports HardCore Heat
Tokyo Xtreme Racer
Tokyo Xtreme Racer 2
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Rogue Spear
Tomb Raider Chronicles
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
Toy Commander
Toy Story 2: Buzz Lightyear to the Rescue
TrickStyle
Ultimate Fighting Championship
Urban Chaos
Unreal Tournament
Vanishing Point
Vigilante 8: 2nd Offense
Virtua Athlete 2000
Virtua Fighter 3tb
Virtua Tennis
Virtua Striker 2
Virtual On: Oratorio Tangram
Wacky Races
Walt Disney World Quest: Magical Racing Tour
Wetrix+
Wild Metal: Reclaim the Future
World Series Baseball 2K1
World Series Baseball 2K2
Worms World Party
WWF Attitude
WWF Royal Rumble
Xtreme Sports
Zombie Revenge
I'll try to produce a dup list as well, so others have an idea of what to buy or trade for so that we can complete things as quick as possible.
This isn't always good, though. Example - http://forum.redump.org/topic/3902/cd32 … mmander-e/ (was also confirmed twice by the same dumper).
Well I'd gladly accept any challenge to any of my claims of verification...hehe but I'll call bullshit if its something like Soul Caliber where I have 30 odd copies of the game & I run through them and come up with the same hashes. 
3. Well when your looking at dumping hundreds of disc's it's nice to make it as less error prone as possible. Really I'll just have to get my hands dirty and see what can and can't be done in this area.
4. I'll only be able to do it with maybe 60 disc's at this point...I've given away a lot of dups. Hehe but I still have enough copies of Soul Caliber & Crazy Taxi to reroof my shed.
6. Well I'm not since the USA set should have been finished last year, till they decided to be lazy, followed by pissing in my coffee.
Well the ring couldn't that be compensated by an overly large pregap?...well I'm no storage media wiz thats for sure...but it would be nice to archive my dumps as single images with a cue sheet.
I do have a dreamcast...actually like 4 or 5 still and one BBA...frigging over priced NIC. Not sure if I'm up for buying a another drive...got a ton of Sony's, Plextor's, Toshiba's and really hoping one of them will do the job.
Anyways I guess we'll see what I can cook up.
Well I could take a look at your guys method of dumping and if I can manage doing it with the hardware I have hear I'll see about doing up some dumps. (USA 200+, JAP 5+, EUR 1 or 2)
However a few questions up front.
1. Can the dumps be used by NullDC & Makaron?
2. How perfect must the disc's be for dumping? (mint, good, okay, trash)
3. Past the manual disc swap can I automate the rest of it with AutoIt...or is there more human interaction required?
4. Can I verify my own dumps with other disc's I own...or am I treated as a liar just like with TOSEC?
5. Are dumps actively accepted and verified...the lag TOSEC has is unacceptable...100 dumps & only like 10 check in three weeks.
6. You guys going to have issues with the fact I have issues with TOSEC?
Mildly off topic...but has anyone figured out a way to create a more standard image of these dumps? Ideally I'd like to turn all my dumps into compressed MDS\MDF images with DaemonTools.
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