Can you please upload
1) EAC track02 dumped with -924 WITHOUT added pregap
2) PerfectRip track02 dumped with +924 (dumped by itself, without dumping track01 in the same session)
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Can you please upload
1) EAC track02 dumped with -924 WITHOUT added pregap
2) PerfectRip track02 dumped with +924 (dumped by itself, without dumping track01 in the same session)
Are you always detecting gaps before dumpigng with EAC? Even if it returns 0.00 it's necessary to hit F4 before dumping. Even without manually adding pregap, EAC resulting file shouldn't begin directly with data.
-924 in EAC and +924 in PerfectRip.
EAC -> exact combined offset
PerfectRip -> inverted sign
AFAIK PerfectRip should give right size track01 without resizing. If PerfectRip's untouched and IsoBuster's resized match, then it's right.
Track02 still has issues, I see that PerfectRip file still has less than 2.00 pregap, and EAC file still misses data at the beginning.
Can you look at actual disc lenght in sectors with IsoBuster?
Yes, EAC's track02 definitely miss data at the beginning, data that's present in PerfectRip's, which in turn has definitely less than 2 seconds of pregap silence
It could be wrong offset messing things up or gap being different than 2 secs. Can you post PerfectRip cue?
Actually PerfectRip's track02 you uploaded has less than 2 second of pregap, and EAC's has exactly 352800 bytes of pregap (which are the ones you added), so it's probable that EAC cut some data at the beginning. I prefer to hear what Vigi/Dremora/Themabus have to say. A -924 offset is exceptional, maybe there's an issue with that.
Yes if you can
What about data track? Do PerfectRip's and IsoBuster's match?
Yes the combined offset is -924. That's the number to use (in PerfectRip it's +924)
EAC doesn't detect track02 pregap, so the resulting file has should have no pregap.
Try manually adding a 2.00 pregap to EAC's track02, and see if it matches PerfectRip's track02 in size and CRC.
Can you post here the D8 info?
I think Dremora is asking that because in both EAC and PerfectRip logs you posted above I see a +252 offset correction. Why that? Using your calcs the write offset is -954, and if combined offset is -924, you should use that to dump. +252 is completely wrong.
Moreover are you sure you have to subtract -1176 for this disc? The part of the guide you cited is only an example, you don't have to always subtract 2 sectors to get the offset. What number do you get after the sync? Is it really 018202? Or is it 18200? SegaCD discs shouldn't have big negative offsets.
I count 67,5 lines before the sync... don't know how the calcs change.
First sector is basically a header, it would make no sense to change it without changing the actual game code. Hell, if true Saturn would be the only game system on Earth of the last 30 years to have different headers same code
I just used psxt001z --track option and my Track02 matches yours with -914 offset correction.
Thanks
Can you mail me your Track02? I want to do some tests.
Thanks
Another thing the 215283 lenght from IsoBuster is from actual CD or from dump?
And you can launch in IsoBuster both actual CD and Daemon mounted image to see if LBAs match? It a necessary check with problematic discs
Ok it's fine I see your Track 35 is 2352 byter bigger, it makes sense since all the gaps are shifted.
Can you post your info on WIP?
Are you sure you added 2352 bytes of silence at the start of Track02? Actual disc sector lenght matches with mine, but your Track02 still is 2352 bytes smaller than what it should be.
A consideration, after Pepsidrinker dumps is tracks, if they match my Japanese disc but only with gaps shifted 1.74->2.00, it would be pretty clear that all these 1.74 gaps are only misjudgments from dumping programs caused by un-standard mastering.
It's not a case that Japanese discs with "normal" write offset (with normal I mean <100) report 2.00 gaps too, just like USA discs. See F1 Circus CD, Game no Kandume, Vay. When the offset becomes huge, then the dumping programs go mad and 1.74 gaps start appearing. Even official system documentation says minimum gap size for MegaCD is 2 seconds!
Maybe not tomorrow, but in the near future we should change all of them to 2 seconds, hopefully there will be an automatized way to do the process.
If EAC reports that Track02 has 1.74 pregap, just dump them all normal (with "append to next track" option) and then add 2352 bytes of silence (00 bytes) only at very beginning of Track02 with an hex editor. Track02 should already be starting with 00s, you only have to add another 2352 bytes of 00s.
So, vigi if I see this from now on it will be 12 bytes? "3D431FF162C4E7D372DDE599" is it the number of them there or what they are that says 12 bytes there? I would like to know so I don't have to keep posting.
2 characters = 1 byte, so 24 characters = 12 bytes. Or you can count lines, multiply * 4 and then subtract sectors, in this case there are 139,75 lines before the sync.
gigadeath wrote:Actually it is
(139 * 4) - (588 * 2) = -617
you forgot the 3 samples on the last row
Oh yes it's 139,75, I did the calc right but posted it wrong
If you dump with IsoBuster you have to take out the data track the full 352800 bytes, IsoBuster always sees 2seconds after the data track, so your data track size would match mine, the CRC are different of course because they're different region.
What about audio tracks? You should add 2352 bytes of silence at the beginning of track02.
In other words, IsoBuster puts 352800 bytes more at the end of the data track, but PerfectRip/EAC put only 350448 bytes of silence at the start of the first audio track.
I got a different size http://redump.org/disc/1938/
Is your disc Japanese?
Actually it is
(139 * 4) - (588 * 2) = -617
You should take off 350448 bytes, check the size to see if it matches.
I could dump Shining Force only with Plextor+PerfectRip. Every other combination gave me wrong results.
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