1 Reply by gigadeath

(79 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

Regardless of opinions, I asked because I need a *factual* answer. I'm in the position to sell my PCE games, I don't strictly need the money, but I don't have a PCE console, I don't plan to buy one, I simply got PCE discs at favorable prices while dealing with MD/MCD carts/cds, bacause I thought they would be useful to redump.org (that was before any PCE section was even in the DB, and before knowing the difficulties in dumping them).

Now they're there, in a box, just doing nothing. I asked months ago about redumping them if needed, got a "wait for magic tool" answer. A week ago I noticed "proper" dumps had appeared, so I asked again.

The simple factual answer I need is:
A) you still have to wait for magic dumping tool anyway --> I sell them now since dumping tool won't probably be out for years to come
B) subcodes are actually useful to determine disc layout --> I dump subcodes, *then* sell the discs

I may be brutal, but I don't want to hear about PCE emupolitics again, not now. I have the discs now, I simply asked if there's anything more I can do with them for redump.org, given the current state of dumping technology.

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2 Reply by gigadeath

(79 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

Don't you hate when a simple question brings back the topic to boring emupolitics? tongue

I asked only because atm I still have those PCE discs of mine here to check, but I don't think I'll keep 'em much longer. Since the only edit my dumps went through were 2.74-to-3.00 gap corrections, wouldn't it better if I'd just submit the subcode for those and you edit the current db entries according to the subcodes?

I get the feeling that when the "magic" dumping tool will hit the streets my discs will be long gone, and I, like Rocknroms, don't see the point in redumping everything and having double entries when the only manipulation they went through is a trivial one-sector gap shift.

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3 Reply by gigadeath

(79 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

F1ReB4LL wrote:
gigadeath wrote:

Then we'll decide what to do with them (it's not necessary to redump everything to correct the dumps of course).

It is. What to do -- wait for the proper sub dumping tool.

I see "proper" dumps being submitted now. So I guess that the situation changed? New dumping tool out or what else?

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4 Reply by gigadeath

(50 replies, posted in General discussion)

I thought the point of DDump was just that, to skip the erroneous sectors and replace them with something else arbitrary.

Unless things have changed in the past years, it's
first read -> it produces unconsistent dumps, of course, because it IS trying to read faulty sectors, then it proceeds to record the position of faulty sectors to log
second read -> it dumps what's good and replaces the bad with its own arbitrary ones

That's what I remember from when I dumped Blood 2.

I'm not saying DDump's dumping routine is redump.org-worthy or unworthy, only that DDump has ALWAYS been about that, I don't get why it seems a trouble just now, when the program hasn't changed since forever  tongue

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5 Reply by gigadeath

(79 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

For what I know this tool could be available only in 2033, I'm not used to acting based on hypothetical things. For the time being I'll proceed to correct data tracks pregap the good old way, using the value reported by both EAC and PR, using both LG and Plextor drives. Any anomaly will go in the comments box, nothing special.

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6 Reply by gigadeath

(79 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

I think I'll recheck all my PCE dumps, and I'll write the actual EAC/PR data tracks pregap in the comments field.

Then we'll decide what to do with them (it's not necessary to redump everything to correct the dumps of course).

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7 Reply by gigadeath

(10 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

I already said I was wrong about not informing you about the changes.

Still, I refuse the "as is" stance, especially since we agreed to adhere to a convention. The whole point of a convention is to plane exceptions off to standardize naming. I really don't get how the "as is" and the "convention-y" stances can live together in a coherent way. Either take everything "as is" and leave for good the convention facade which got the footlights lately, or develop a convention to standardize Japanese naming too. As I said, we just can't boast about how we have a new convention for Western naming, while Japanese naming is left in poor ol' "as is" state. It's not coherent acting.

I still consider aphonetical characters completely useless, or at least not enough useful to force a double standard. About ISO vs JIS, I'll simply repeat that I don't prefer ISO chars; if we'll reach an all-JIS standard I'll be more than happy. That doesn't change the fact that the whole database is/was already half JIS and half ISO, and you know it. Standing halfway, I simply took the direction to a standard you consider wrong, instead to a standard you consider good, but I sure didn't disrupt a perfect database like it seemed from your words.

(moreover, Japanese users can install ISO support on their OS, just like we installed kanji support on ours; unless they're mentally handicapped, I don't get why you think they absolutely have to get the soup ready on the table, unlike us)

BTW, No-Intro and Redump.org cannot in any way be compared. Romsets are in their mature phase, they require simple fine-tuning, nothing that requires any mass renaming. That said, your temper is a completely different issue. I don't dispute your knowledge, but your attitude doesn't simplify things here. And I'm not talking about this particular argument between us; several other flame-y discussions have been brought up lately, discussions I had no part in.

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8 Reply by gigadeath

(10 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

F1ReB4LL wrote:
iR0b0t wrote:

I don't know if Blood+: Souyoku no Battle Rondo is correct,
but alt. title should be BLOOD+ ～双翼のバトル輪舞曲～

Btw, I think that all the alternative titles should have english symbols only in Shift-JIS (no ISO symbols), all the subtitles should be shown between "～" symbols and "・" should be used to split katakana words. And all the spaces should be wide (from a Shift-JIS table), not the regular ones, shown by pressing the spacebar button. Gigadeath has recently screwed _the whole_ Saturn section by removing all the "～" and "・" symbols and changing all the letters to ISO ones. Honestly, this made me even less motivated to dump the rest of my Saturn roll

http://www.rikai.com/library/kanjitable … sjis.shtml -- a table with all the Shift-JIS symbols for those, who can't type them.

The response to this is already in the PMs I sent you weeks ago. Feel free to copy/paste them here if you prefer to make the whole discussion public. I couldn't care less smile

I hope it's clear that I take absolutely NO responsibility upon myself for your "demotivation", sorry. Blame yourself if you feel demotivated. Try a support group or something like that.

Half the JP database is/was already in ISO form, and ～s and ・s are completely useless from both phonetical and semantical points of view.

Besides, I don't know if I'm the only one thinking this, but I also think you're not the best person to be the admin here, considering your temper.

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9 Topic by gigadeath

(1 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

Rocknroms could you check again the offset of your Ecco the Dolphin disc (http://redump.org/disc/4104/)?

Converting this image from TOSEC I get matching result with offset +2, not 0.

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10 Reply by gigadeath

(2 replies, posted in Dumps)

I guess you counted Metal Slug as 2 dumps right? Because I count 13 unique dumps.

BTW weren't Strider 2 JP discs already dumped some time ago? It seems I missed their removal.

EDIT: I see now that they were part of pnz fake dumps  neutral

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11 Reply by gigadeath

(5 replies, posted in Dumps)

Yep, so the actual serial is like other MCD games, MK-4411-50.

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12 Reply by gigadeath

(5 replies, posted in Dumps)

Thanks but I kill time before my well earned week I'll spend on the beach smile

I asked about the serial because I guess there's some confusion (not talking about you, speaking in general) about PAL MCD serials. Sometimes there's the MK-, sometimes not, sometimes there's the -50, sometimes not. Moreover Jurassic Park is one of those games with different PAL release for every country, so there will be -09, -18 etc suffixes sooner or later, better solving this now. If you can try to specify whether the serial is the exact one on the box like you do for SAT games.

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13 Reply by gigadeath

(5 replies, posted in Dumps)

Could you check the box serial? I'm getting contrasting info about this. I got either 4411 or 4411-50 in other databases.  I know the header is MK-4411 but we don't use the header serial smile

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14 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

So MKII, Darius Gaiden and Clockwork Knight 2 all have 1.74 track02 pregaps even when read with LG drive?

I hope Pepsidrinker can submit subs for both his Shining Force CD dumps too smile

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15 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

Any news on this?

And somehow I suspect the two Shining Force CD USA dumps from Pepsidrinker behave the same; probably they're the same exact disc that went under 2 different reading routines (check the infamous +222 offset). I may be wrong, but data track being identical doesn't leave much space to speculation:

http://redump.org/disc/2702/
http://redump.org/disc/3875/

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16 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

Well try submitting here subcode for Mortal Kombat II from both drives.

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17 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

It's not that weird in this case, since this full sector who messes offset up it's probably the same that it's read as gap/non-gap from the different reading routines of your 2 drives. As for the solution to this, we wait for subcode analysis.

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18 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

Yeah there's a strong probability they're all the same, just each CD drive reading them differently. Happens a lot with both Saturn and MCD games. If they're 1.74 or 2.00, Fireball will tell us.

All these ridicolous 1.74 gaps were meant to be 2.00 anyway before shitty mastering machines made the mess, so I always "root" for the 2.00 mark.

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19 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

My question was born because it's a 1.74 pregap followed by several 2.00 pregaps, it's the first time I see this outcome.

Usually it's the other way around, 2.00 track 02 followed by a whole bunch of 1.74 gaps. And by my experience that 1.74 gap could turn out to be 2.00 if read with another drive. And sector comparison with the Japanese dump contributes to my doubts.

Of course it could be right, just the way that particular mastering machine behaved.

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20 Reply by gigadeath

(35 replies, posted in Dumps)

Could you check Darius Gaiden Track 02 pregap with another drive?

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21 Reply by gigadeath

(3 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

That's how it is. Japanese generally don't give a fuck about wrong plurals in foreign languages, they like their Engrish as it is.

The error was corrected for the Western release. And it's not the exact same game, the PAL release contains Super Monaco GP too.

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22 Reply by gigadeath

(3 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

I corrected Broken Sword II, thanks.

About Sega Classics, I don't thinks Arcade Collection it's a subtitle, since "Sega Classics Arcade Collection" sounds like a whole phrase to me, the same for the Japanese release.

Regarding the Limited Edition part, that's still under debate in some part of these forums. Moreover things are complicated here since in this case the game is no Limited Edition at all, it's a totally normal release labelled Limited Edition by the publisher for the coolness factor. And it doesn't appear on the title screen anyway hmm

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23 Reply by gigadeath

(49 replies, posted in General discussion)

If there are any games released in England only, just create a (England) tag and use it when it's necessary. I don't know what's the problem with that.

For the systems I'm directly involved with, the totality of PAL English-only games are whole-Europe release. As far as my part in the database goes, (E) is de facto ALWAYS (Europe). (E) = (England) is STILL nonsense for 99% of the cases.

If some PS1/PS2 games are England only, the dumper/adder will mark it as such when the tag is available.

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24 Reply by gigadeath

(37 replies, posted in Fixes & additions)

Missing version wrote:

Horde, The (J)

Missing version in the filename wrote:

Baku Baku Animal - Sekai Shiiku Gakari Senshuken (J) -- v1.001, 1.000 exists
Dragon Force (J) -- v1.007, 1.011 exists
Dragon Force (J) (Alt) -- v1.007, 1.011 exists
Dragon Force II - Kamisarishi Daichi ni (J) -- v1.006, 1.007 exists
DX Jinsei Game (J) -- v1.005, 1.002 exists
House of the Dead, The (J) -- 1998-02-25, 1998-05-21 exists (both are v1.003)
Kidou Senshi Gundam (J) -- v1.000, 1.300 exists
Langrisser III (J) -- v1.000, 1.010 exists
Layer Section (J) -- v1.001, 1.002 exists
Lunar - Silver Star Story (J) -- v1.05, 2.00 exists
Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special (J) -- v1.001, 1.002 exists
Sega Ages - Out Run (J) -- v1.005, 1.102 exists
Senkutsu Katsuryu Taisen - Chaos Seed (J) (Disc 1) -- v1.005, 2.000 exists
Shining Force III - Scenario 2 - Nerawareta Miko (J) -- v2.000, 1.003 exists

Wrong genre wrote:

Real Sound - Kaze no Regret (J) (Disc 1) -- should be Multimedia
Real Sound - Kaze no Regret (J) (Disc 2) -- should be Multimedia
Real Sound - Kaze no Regret (J) (Disc 3) -- should be Multimedia
Real Sound - Kaze no Regret (J) (Disc 4) -- should be Multimedia

I fixed these.

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25 Reply by gigadeath

(49 replies, posted in General discussion)

Jackal wrote:
iR0b0t wrote:

LOL more "Region and language tags" postings tongue

Thanks to the great forum software that doesn't even allow the merging of topics.. and if you split posts it 'forgets' the other pages, even though you selected them mad

lol Not that much of a problem since it's a dead topic, the naming convention is correct as it is now, we'll simply have to adjust the entries that collide after removing serials. The whole (E) = (England) issue is nonsense and everything has already been said about it.

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