• Registered: 2007-01-10
  • Posts: 10

Hello! I'm trying to confirm that this...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050SX97I/re … 1Eb188TZVM
(MGS HD Collection, PS3, Standard)

Is the exact same disc that came with this...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005PSTTJA/re … 1EbD4BXFPA
(MGS HD Collection, PS3, Limited)

Basically, I have the Limited Edition, and I'm looking to replace the disc with a brand new copy of the same thing from the Standard Edition release. I want to make sure it's the same disc in every way possible (including the data on the disc).

If the disc labels look exactly the same, and I dump (using the PS3 dumping guide) both my original disc (from my Limited Edition) and the replacement disc (from a standard edition release), and the SHA1s match... Is there any point in verifying that the metadata and ring information are same? Do the metadata and ring info ever differ between discs if the SHA1s match?

Please help ease my collector OCD! Thanks so much!

  • Registered: 2018-10-22
  • Posts: 340

Tidegear wrote:

Hello! I'm trying to confirm that this...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0050SX97I/re … 1Eb188TZVM
(MGS HD Collection, PS3, Standard)

Is the exact same disc that came with this...
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005PSTTJA/re … 1EbD4BXFPA
(MGS HD Collection, PS3, Limited)

Basically, I have the Limited Edition, and I'm looking to replace the disc with a brand new copy of the same thing from the Standard Edition release. I want to make sure it's the same disc in every way possible (including the data on the disc).

If the disc labels look exactly the same, and I dump (using the PS3 dumping guide) both my original disc (from my Limited Edition) and the replacement disc (from a standard edition release), and the SHA1s match... Is there any point in verifying that the metadata and ring information are same? Do the metadata and ring info ever differ between discs if the SHA1s match?

Please help ease my collector OCD! Thanks so much!

If SHA1 matches between the 2 dumps, then disc contents are identical.
For the EU version this is already proven: http://redump.org/disc/25025/ but not for the US.
I am not very familiar with ringcodes for Sony discs, so can't answer that part with any big certainty. As a general principle, ringcodes usually are the same or similar if contents are the same.

  • From: Melbourne, Australia
  • Registered: 2007-05-01
  • Posts: 518

Take a look at the ringcode on the back (ask the seller for a photo if necessary), the main part of the ID (the BPSS number on American PS3 discs) should match if it's already dumped. Sometimes the trailing digit differs (e.g. 1/2/3) along with the SID codes but this isn't part of the main ID.

Same applies for PAL region PlayStation games (and even non-PlayStation media made by Sony DADC like movies, UMDs, audio CDs, PC games/software etc.) - it's the large number with an A prefix (the -0101 or -A511 or -A911 doesn't matter, neither does the 17/28 etc. after it)

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  • Registered: 2007-01-10
  • Posts: 10

Heihachi_73 wrote:

Take a look at the ringcode on the back (ask the seller for a photo if necessary), the main part of the ID (the BPSS number on American PS3 discs) should match if it's already dumped. Sometimes the trailing digit differs (e.g. 1/2/3) along with the SID codes but this isn't part of the main ID.

Same applies for PAL region PlayStation games (and even non-PlayStation media made by Sony DADC like movies, UMDs, audio CDs, PC games/software etc.) - it's the large number with an A prefix (the -0101 or -A511 or -A911 doesn't matter, neither does the 17/28 etc. after it)

Thanks! Both discs are American, so as long as both discs dump to the same SHA1 and are marked "BPSS-218800A1", I don't have to worry about any other markings such as the sid codes or toolstamp/mastering code? The discs are identical?

Thanks x2!