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Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:42:35 +0000

okay, nice, there IS your difference

please continue the discussion in the other topic now...

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:39:14 +0000

They do indeed differ in size! I've checked 2 games of each WAVE; WAVE3 is 77472 sectors, WAVE4 88800 sectors.

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:37:33 +0000

okay, we can put it inside of TRACKER section for now, so only registered users with dumper status have access to it

and YES to your question (WAVE4 only, WAVE3 is already mentioned)

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:33:37 +0000

iR0b0t wrote:

I think there is a way how to do that if you still have some discs with WAVE3 & 4 ? We would need to check the visible partition sizes, they may be slowly different in size !?

Yes I do, I'll have a look. By visible partition you mean the partition you see when you put a disc in a non-compatible drive, right? The partition with VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS and the system update?

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:29:24 +0000

Again, I don't really want to post the guide publicly. Maybe I'm a bit paranoid but this is Xbox 360, not some 20 years old console. It's nothing personal but posting such info in a public forum can cause serious trouble.

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:22:59 +0000

I've put the old description online again http://forum.redump.org/topic/5887/xbox360-dumping/

But we need a better layout for that, if you can, post your guide inside, we will then try to find a way for a nice description together

EDIT:
i have no info now about WAVE5, but i may download L4D2 and get it from there.

EDIT2:

amarok wrote:

One question that remains is how to distinguish WAVE3 from WAVE4

I think there is a way how to do that if you still have some discs with WAVE3 & 4 ? We would need to check the visible partition sizes, they may be slowly different in size !?

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:12:16 +0000

I actually have written a "guide" (or rather some crude instructions ) and sent it to several people via PM. I'm reluctant to put it here publicly... You know how much trouble this can cause in our beautiful country -.-

One question that remains is how to distinguish WAVE3 from WAVE4. Supposedly there's also a WAVE5 (with Left4Dead 2 being the first game to use it). Do you by chance have any further information?

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:02:45 +0000

amarok wrote:

Is the XBC method better?

not really, better use isobuster method.

EDIT:
if you want to write a dumping guide please do so, i have no time for that, i may correct or put some additional info afterward.

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (r09) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:45:44 +0000

amarok wrote:

You probably haven't replaced the garbage sectors... Try to extract the game again and replace the byte range from 223182848 to 231571456 with 00s in a hex editor for WAVE2/3/4 and WAVE1 (108976-113071) dumps (see the Comments section of the dump to find out which WAVE the disc is). In case of WAVE1 (18128-22223) dumps, replace 37126144 to 45514752. You should get a match then.

Thanks, I'll try it later.

If you have further questions or want to dump games that aren't in the DB already I can send you further instructions.

Please do. I have quite a few games that aren't in the database and I'll probably sell some of them in the near future, so I want to get them dumped before that.

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:41:08 +0000

No, always IsoBuster. You should know, 95% of my knowledge of 360 dumping comes from you

Is the XBC method better?

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:31:33 +0000

amarok, are you going the non-isobuster way? i guess you are using XBC (?)

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:26:24 +0000

You probably haven't replaced the garbage sectors... Try to extract the game again and replace the byte range from 223182848 to 231571456 with 00s in a hex editor for WAVE2/3/4 and WAVE1 (108976-113071) dumps (see the Comments section of the dump to find out which WAVE the disc is). In case of WAVE1 (18128-22223) dumps, replace 37126144 to 45514752. You should get a match then.

If you have further questions or want to dump games that aren't in the DB already I can send you further instructions.

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (r09) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:57:01 +0000

I'd like to know the dumping method with the SH-D162D, too. I tried it on my own but I couldn't get a match with the existing dumps, I must have been doing something wrong.

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:15:36 +0000

ahh, firmware limitations (and chip set differences)

Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?

null@example.com (amarok) — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:11:26 +0000

Hehe, no, I said "sets apart", not "take apart". I mean, what is different about these drives so they can read these discs most other drives obviously can't read?