Redump Forum — Dumping CDLock CD's

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (MrX_Cuci) — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:02:18 +0000

So, I got a disc with real dummy files. Two of the data files fill up about the entire CD. The audio tracks are legit and dumped correctly. EAC and PF one correspond. How would I go about with dumping the data track?I get inconsistent results with DDump. Can I use ISObuster instead? (replace sectors with zeroes?)

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (ghost) — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:02:26 +0000

OK thanks for the help and btw you need to fix that error about properly adding minutes in cues.

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (ghost) — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 13:09:52 +0000

ok so eac gave me right pregaps, cool. how i exctract track4 pregap? if its hard talk to me in irc. and the disc UK

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 12:12:41 +0000

okay, same pregap lengths here also.

when you can extract track4 pregap without errors in isobuster, then its fine and can be easily done.

so, its an US disc then?

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (ghost) — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:59:43 +0000

http://www.mediafire.com/?s0w9ep51auet8zu

I dumped again with the LG, the first subs are from the plextor. It gave some errors in track3, the cd is slighly scratched. I dont know how important might that be. And the cd is uk.

I 2:41:43 PM Starting copy from HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22LP20 to C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon\My Documents\CloneCD\TR31LG.ccd
I 2:41:43 PM Read Speed for Data Tracks: Maximum
I 2:41:43 PM Read Speed for Audio Tracks: 4x
I 2:41:43 PM Read SubChannel Data from Data Tracks: Yes
I 2:41:43 PM Read SubChannel Data from Audio Tracks: Yes
I 2:41:43 PM Fast Error Skip: Yes
I 2:41:43 PM Don't report read errors: No
I 2:41:43 PM Intelligent Bad Sector Scanner: Yes
I 2:41:43 PM CD contains CD-Text: No
I 2:41:43 PM Reading Track 1... (Blocks 0-273826)
I 2:43:45 PM INDEX 0 Track 2 LBA 273676!
I 2:43:49 PM Reading Track 2... (Blocks 273826-340050)
I 2:43:54 PM INDEX 0 Track 3 LBA 275326!
W 2:44:22 PM Failed to read Sector 279457
W 2:44:47 PM Failed to read Sector 283122
W 2:45:20 PM Failed to read Sector 285178
W 2:45:53 PM Failed to read Sector 288390
W 2:46:29 PM Failed to read Sector 297165
W 2:47:06 PM Failed to read Sector 309291
W 2:47:45 PM Failed to read Sector 330811
W 2:48:18 PM Failed to read Sector 336231
I 2:48:39 PM Reading Track 3... (Blocks 340050-341850)
I 2:48:47 PM Reading Track 4... (Blocks 341850-342905)
I 2:48:49 PM Duration of operation: 00:07:06
I 2:48:49 PM Average Speed: 1888 kBytes/s (10.73)
I 2:48:49 PM Reading finished!

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:37:55 +0000

looks like you are trying to dump an USA disc(?)

track02: 2.00
track03: 14:22.74
track04: 2.00

any other drives to try out subchannel reading?

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (ghost) — Mon, 27 Sep 2010 09:34:20 +0000

Tomb Raider 3 disc 1 subs, 0 offset pxd8.

http://www.mediafire.com/?71oacfrp33zghc1

eac gives me the folowing gaps.

track02: 2.00
track03: 14:22.74
track04: 2.00

And a detailed guide whould be nice

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (Nexy) — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 04:13:24 +0000

Will have to make a little guide for this. I think there is a workable system for doing it, I have to thank fireball and ir0b0t for checking the subs and helping me out with it.

I'll try to put together an addendum for the dumping guide, just for this protection. Problem is I don't know how to analyze subs properly yet. If there was a good tool for it released soon it would help.

A combination of ISOBuster, EAC, cdtoimg, descramble_CDDA, a calculator and a hex editor is needed to do it.

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:20:04 +0000

Depends on whats recorded in the subs, so it would be better to examine them.

When you know the exact pregap length you can go back in isobuster and when there are data sectors you have to extract them first and add to the track.

Also, it could happen that there is a mixed pregap of audio and data sectors.

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (ghost) — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 14:07:15 +0000

Yes but what I mean is that you have to manualy add a bunch of 00s in the beginning of the data track?

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (iR0b0t) — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:03:18 +0000

yes ghosty, (pre) means before

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (ghost) — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:36:40 +0000

A question about cdlock, where is the pregap of the data track (track 4) goes? to the begining of it?

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (Nexy) — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:19:10 +0000

Okidoki, shouldn't be a problem then.

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (r09) — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:02:49 +0000

Nexy wrote:

well it goes
DATA TRACK
AUDIO TRACK
AUDIO TRACK
DATA TRACK
bin/cue doesn't support this, just like CD Extra.

CD Extra is multisession, that's why the BIN/CUE format can't be used with it. In this case we are dealing with only one session with multiple data tracks inside, and that's fully supported by the CUE format.

Re: Dumping CDLock CD's

null@example.com (Haldrie) — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:30:38 +0000

Tomb Raider III is listed as having Illegal TOC on some copy protection web sites (don't remember which ones as I saw this a long time ago). My guess is the reason why it was considered Illegal was because disc copying software at the time this copy protection was released was unable to handle ripping the second data track. These days disc copy software gets around this issue by raw ripping the disc even when it's only ripping a single track at a time.

[EDIT]
Also bin/cue does support this as I've run my own image of Tomb Raider III from the bin/cue dump I've made of it. It might not have with virtual drives back then but now it's no problem for them.