<![CDATA[Redump Forum — Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/topic/3754/help-me-decide-with-a-cdreader-please/ Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:26:09 +0000 PunBB 1.4.4 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13270/#p13270 Jackal wrote:

but finding one can be difficult these days.

Now I have bought one to the reserve, for less than 40 euros tongue

]]> Sun, 16 Nov 2008 16:26:09 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13270/#p13270 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13219/#p13219 The PX760A works with the trap disc method and it can dump everything (gdrom, xbox, etc.. except for gc and wii hehe) cool

Some Lite-On models are also capable of gdroms (for instance I have a SOHD-167T which supports it), but they're nowhere near reliable and foolproof as the Plextor (the swapping often doesn't work or it doesn't read well.. the plextor has no such problems: just close the tray and it works).

With that said, the PX760A is propably the best drive for dumping out there (it supports overreading and you can use px_d8 to detect any write offset), but finding one can be difficult these days.

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:29:38 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13219/#p13219 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13218/#p13218 Works with my NEC ND-1300A. Doesn't work on LG drives (at least, on those I've tried) - their 'escape hole' is connected with the eject button.

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:26:25 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13218/#p13218 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13213/#p13213 There are a lot of drives where the trap disc method doesn't work. I have tried it with 5 different drives, and only one (my Plextor PX-708A) works. And I can't even use it to dump Dreamcast discs, just normal CDs.

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:59:58 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13213/#p13213 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13212/#p13212 iR0b0t wrote:

you should use a tool like startstop to speed up/down the drive to avoid damages on disc and drive
***just edit the batch files, if you will use them!

I know, i used startstop first to speed down the drive roll wink

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:56:55 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13212/#p13212 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13210/#p13210 Btw, there's one more thing you should know:

<Vigi> yeah, when you push the tray back you have to do it with a certain amount of force (but still gently) so that it locks again.. but only some brands can be fooled this way

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:12:03 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13210/#p13210 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13209/#p13209 you should use a tool like startstop to speed up/down the drive to avoid damages on disc and drive tongue

***just edit the batch files, if you will use them!

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:38:44 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13209/#p13209 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13208/#p13208 Well, i tried using the trap-disc method and don't work for my reader, i opened an closed the tray a lot of times, but don't work, in fact, the reader scratched a little the game cd hmm but anyway thanks for the tip.

]]> Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:15:29 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13208/#p13208 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13194/#p13194 1) You can dump the whole CD, even if you can't read the last track completely due to your drive's reading offset.
2) You can determine the write offset using the 'Plextor's' method (by looking at the first sector in scrambled form). You don't need to use the px_d8 tool, just use IsoBuster's sector view on the 0 sector for the same output.
3) You can even dump such things as Saturn rings, for example.

]]> Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:21:59 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13194/#p13194 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13192/#p13192 F1ReB4LL: What's the advantage of using a trapdisc with regular CDs?

]]> Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:10:01 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13192/#p13192 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13184/#p13184 Devcon wrote:
F1ReB4LL wrote:

I still suggest you to try the trapdisc method.

Sorry but i think the trapdisc method was only available to dump DC GD-Rom drives? It works on PSX games too? I can't see that method in the main psx dumping guide, can you point me to it please? smile

You can dump everything. You don't need a hacked image, though, just generate a 700mb empty file and burn it on CD-RW as audiotrack, then use it as trapdisc.

]]> Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:13:30 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13184/#p13184 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13172/#p13172 ssjkakaroto wrote:

@Devcon: Did you test the other drives?

I only tested it with the LG GSA4167b (overread Lead-In) and a Toshiba SD-M1402 (no overread at all). Today if i have time i will test the LG CRD-8483B smile

]]> Tue, 11 Nov 2008 04:13:28 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13172/#p13172 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13171/#p13171 F1ReB4LL wrote:
ssjkakaroto wrote:

Use the one that can overread into the leadout.

AFAIK, only Plextors have this feature, but I've heard some rumors, that some recent LGs also support it (though, PerfectRip doesn't work with them, anyway). You can try to use the trap disc method, though (but, again, not all the drives allow it).

There are plenty of drives (old ones) that can overread into the leadout. What is exclusive of plextors is the D8 read command.

@Devcon: Did you test the other drives?

]]> Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:30:41 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13171/#p13171 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13169/#p13169 F1ReB4LL wrote:

I still suggest you to try the trapdisc method.

Sorry but i think the trapdisc method was only available to dump DC GD-Rom drives? It works on PSX games too? I can't see that method in the main psx dumping guide, can you point me to it please? smile

]]> Tue, 11 Nov 2008 01:07:29 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13169/#p13169 <![CDATA[Re: Help me decide with a cd-reader please.]]> http://forum.redump.org/post/13167/#p13167 I still suggest you to try the trapdisc method.

]]> Mon, 10 Nov 2008 23:06:19 +0000 http://forum.redump.org/post/13167/#p13167