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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12115/#p12115</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Volkov wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Can the creater of PackPS2, edit the program to be made to compress things besides ISO?&nbsp; It just 7z the file right?&nbsp; Should work for anything?&nbsp; Hopefully someone can help me</p></blockquote></div><p>i will add the remaining image format on Monday, i won&#039;t be going to office before that and the source code is on my office PC</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Sotho Tal Ker: The differences are only on the 2 first and 2 last offsets of the file <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Probably touch is missing something that rmdtrash cleans.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ssjkakaroto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ssjkakaroto wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I compiled p7zip 4.53 on a OpenBSD system (Pentium III 800MHz), used &quot;touch -t 197912310900.00&quot; on the file and compressed it with &quot;7za a file.7z file.ecm&quot;; then I used packiso on a WinXP SP3 system (AMD Sempron 3000+) on the same file.<br />Though the 7z size was the same on both machines, their md5 was different.</p><p>It&#039;s a shame that the guys who did torrentzip have no intention of doing a torrent7z...</p></blockquote></div><p>The problem probably is with time stamp and file atributes, as rmdtrasht.exe set the date to 1980/01/01 01:00.00 (i think it&#039;s (GMt) Greenwitch Mean Time) and removes all file atributes. Of course date must be set for: created, modified and accessed time stamps.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Amdus666)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 08:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ssjkakaroto wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Though the 7z size was the same on both machines, their md5 was different.</p></blockquote></div><p>Can you do a binary compare to see how different those 2 files are? Maybe there is only a difference in the file header or the whole data stream is different.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Sotho Tal Ker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12090/#p12090</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>I compiled p7zip 4.53 on a OpenBSD system (Pentium III 800MHz), used &quot;touch -t 197912310900.00&quot; on the file and compressed it with &quot;7za a file.7z file.ecm&quot;; then I used packiso on a WinXP SP3 system (AMD Sempron 3000+) on the same file.<br />Though the 7z size was the same on both machines, their md5 was different.</p><p>It&#039;s a shame that the guys who did torrentzip have no intention of doing a torrent7z...</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ssjkakaroto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 23:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12076/#p12076</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>But Winrar for instance gives me different results on different system. Tested with same settings, but once on a&nbsp; Turion Laptop with 2 Gig RAM and once with an old first gen. Pentium 4 with 512 MB. Torrentzip was specially developed with this aspect in mind, even an old Pentium 1 system should give you same results. I guess&nbsp; I will do some tests to proof 7zip.</p><p>If someday Daemon Tools will support compressed audio, this would be the perfect solution.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sotho Tal Ker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Those people should try it instead of praying. <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>It has been discussed several times, but sadly they are not so open minded for new ways....</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (topkat)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:41:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12039/#p12039</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Compression algorithms are usually integer based.<br />So far same versions of 7zip used with the same options made identical results.<br />That is at least true for the Windows version of 7zip. <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Sotho Tal Ker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>...but this could happen with torrentzip aswell</p></blockquote></div><p>No, it couldn&#039;t <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />Unless there was an error of course.</p><p>But seriously, from what I know of torrentzip, it was designed specifically to make identical results regardless of machine/OS (most probably by using integers only).</p><p>I thought the same could be done with 7zip, so when you said that PackISO got identical results on different machines I thought this was the case.</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 04:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>So far, files compressed with packiso have been identical for different people on different computers. Of course there is the possibility that there is an odd configuration where the result will be different, but this could happen with torrentzip aswell.</p><p>Those people should try it instead of praying. <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Sotho Tal Ker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12017/#p12017</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So, if 2 peole have the same dump and run it through packiso, they will get bit for bit identical output files no matter what computer/os they use? I&#039;m a member of a well know retro gaming torrent tracker, and the &#039;masters&#039; over their always pray that the only way for two people to get same checksums it to use torrentzip. Especially a &#039;torrent7zip&#039; tool were called impossible due to 7zip not beeing able to produce identical files (and a too lousy source code to make it do so).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (topkat)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Delete this post, since the server was misbehaving again :x</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Sotho Tal Ker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>BadSector wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Oh thanks for this info, didn&#039;t knew that. So this mean that if i used the ultra setting instead of default in Packps2, it will still make the same Archives?</p></blockquote></div><p>It will make the same archives when you use the same settings. Compressing with 7z ultra leads of course to higher compression vs. the normal 7z compression (because of Increased dictionary size). But every computer has to have enough resources to use such a large dictionary, else compression outcome might differ (when there is extensive paging for example).<br />Also you could use other advanced settings to improve compression.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>ssjkakaroto wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Are you sure about that Sotho Tal Ker? Even the slightest difference in floating-point calculations across CPU&#039;s/OS&#039;s can cause the archive to be completely different. Unless 7zip uses only integers values. Do you know if that&#039;s the case?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, I am not completely sure (I did not look at the source of 7-zip), but so far packISO did work for many people on many different computers. Unless someone comes with an example that the file created is different, it stands as is (it&#039;s not a mathematical proof, but a natural ... it is right until someone disproves it). Of course everyone has to use the same 7-zip version.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (Sotho Tal Ker)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12009/#p12009</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Here is the link to packps2</p><p><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?cxbvztebq44">http://www.mediafire.com/?cxbvztebq44</a></p><p>the file extension should be <strong>iso</strong> for it to work. if you have more then one image, u can either put them in a single folder or in subfolders and it will compress them all.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (BadSector)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
			<link>http://forum.redump.org/post/12005/#p12005</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure about that Sotho Tal Ker? Even the slightest difference in floating-point calculations across CPU&#039;s/OS&#039;s can cause the archive to be completely different. Unless 7zip uses only integers values. Do you know if that&#039;s the case?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[null@example.com (ssjkakaroto)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: PackISO]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Sotho Tal Ker wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>BadSector wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sotho Tal Ker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>If everyone uses the same 7zip version, it should be the same file for everyone. <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Actually No, it will not create same Archive on different PCs, if you look into your Packiso folder, there will be a file called RMDtrach.exe (or somewhat similar name), that exe it what make it possible to get same images on different PC.</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, yes, i forgot rmdtrash. What is does is zeroing the created/modified/accessed times.<br />Still 7za will create exactly the same files on different machines with <strong>exactly</strong> (Which means file times are identical, too) the same source files. <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Oh thanks for this info, didn&#039;t knew that. So this mean that if i used the ultra setting instead of default in Packps2, it will still make the same Archives?</p>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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