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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Future proof methods]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Better fire up my trusty portable SEM and get the real story!&nbsp; </p><p>Haha, actually, no joke, didn&#039;t someone try dumping a CD this way once?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Isis]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4234/</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-17T18:17:10Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/33969/#p33969</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Future proof methods]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Anything without complete lead-in and lead-out is underdump <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/13/</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-17T10:51:58Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/33961/#p33961</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Future proof methods]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I&#039;ve got a 760.&nbsp; I&#039;ll try anything.</p><p>Better to over-dump than under-dump!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Isis]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4234/</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-17T07:37:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Future proof methods]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve tested this tool a lot, it works great, but it can be slow. =]</p><p>I hope you have a plextor drive, it REALLY makes dumping PC games much easier.</p><p>If you have any questions about dumping any certain protection not covered in the guide or the stickies, feel free to ask here or on IRC.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nexy]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/10468/</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-17T04:55:39Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/33956/#p33956</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Future proof methods]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I can give you a tool for dumping the subs. But prepare to wait upto an hour per disc (if no scratches).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/13/</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-16T23:36:32Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/33953/#p33953</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Future proof methods]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m waiting to rip my CD (PC game) collection.&nbsp; I&#039;m mainly hung up by the issue of subs.</p><p>Should I:<br />1.&nbsp; Ignore them if there&#039;s no copy protection that uses them<br />2.&nbsp; Dump them with Alcohol or perfectrip<br />3.&nbsp; Wait for new dumping tools (just read about these recently: trurip, etc.)</p><p>Is there a way to check if there&#039;s something interesting at various &quot;levels&quot; of ECM, subs, etc?&nbsp; I mean, on &quot;normal&quot; discs this stuff is recreated... how do you tell if it is special?&nbsp; If I&#039;m storing ECM, why not store subs as well?&nbsp; (only thing I can think of is some dev puts a funny &quot;hello world&quot; type thing on their disc.)</p><p>Mainly, I&#039;m just looking for a green light to do just as your guides say, but I don&#039;t want to redo it later.</p><p>PS:&nbsp; I&#039;ve seen mention of a &quot;better&quot; version of perfectrip (an earlier beta?), if true, can anyone link me?</p><p>Thanks guys - hope to contribute some more good ol&#039; PC games.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Isis]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4234/</uri>
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			<updated>2011-07-16T23:27:21Z</updated>
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