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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>axisleon wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>My suggestion: WYSIWYG</p></blockquote></div><p>Real WYSIWYG = scan.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-03-12T12:38:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>My suggestion: WYSIWYG</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[axisleon]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-03-12T02:16:41Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I vote for storing them unformatted. There are some unusual codes that would be nice to preserve.</p><p>Examples<br />Mastering SID: Some XBOX USA discs have IFPI130<br />Mould SID: Some PS2 USA discs have 72xx or IFPI 72xx</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Enker]]></name>
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			<updated>2016-03-12T02:01:11Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>F1ReB4LL wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Single stars inside the ringcodes - yes, needed. Multiple stars like &quot;* ** *******&quot; aren&#039;t needed. Try to PM iRr0b0t about the logos. <strong><span style="color: BLUE">We usually include &quot;Mastered by Nimbus&quot; logo as text into the ringcode field, so these ones should be also included at the very end of the ringcode, IMO</span></strong>. Or, at least, in the comments.</p><p>iR0b0t: maybe one more field is needed for these logos? Mastering Code, Mastering Logos (?), Mastering SID Code, Toolstamp, Mould SID Code, Additional Mould Text?</p></blockquote></div><p>Bumped the thread to highlight this so that everyone can see this. According to F1ReB4LL, the logos of the mastering ring code must be placed at the very end of mastering ring codes, this way: blablablablablabla[TAB][LOGO]</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pablogm123]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-12-17T00:10:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Rings + tabulators in ring codes]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>usurper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>if those &quot;+ +&quot; on Xbox1 Ringcodes</p></blockquote></div><p>Seems to be valid for discs/layers mastered by IFPI LB48 factory only, not 100% sure though.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-27T18:48:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>They are part of the mastering code, but they don&#039;t always have a space between them. Most should have [TAB], but the dumpers will need to confirm if there is a space or not.</p><p>Here are some scans for reference:<br /><a href="http://i.imgur.com/jQQBkCW.jpg">No space</a><br /><a href="http://i.imgur.com/ogMetJG.jpg">TAB</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Enker]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-27T15:56:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>IIRC they are laser burned therefore should be part of the Mastering Code (Ringcode).</p><p>And i think there should be a [TAB] between both plus signs, as they seem to be there for alignment of the toolstamp numbers (auto focus for the machine when aching/stamping).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-27T09:41:47Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I would like to know/carify if those &quot;+ +&quot; on Xbox1 Ringcodes are part of the Mastering Code (Ringcode) or part of the Toolstamp.<br />I just noticed that Enker is adding them as part of the Mastering Code (Ringcode) while others (including me) are setting them as part of the Toolstamp.<br />Any thoughts so we can align on it and having them added all by the same way?</p><p><a href="http://redump.org/disc/13566/">http://redump.org/disc/13566/</a> vs. <a href="http://redump.org/disc/13536/">http://redump.org/disc/13536/</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[usurper]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-06-27T08:53:02Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Single stars inside the ringcodes - yes, needed. Multiple stars like &quot;* ** *******&quot; aren&#039;t needed. Try to PM iRr0b0t about the logos. We usually include &quot;Mastered by Nimbus&quot; logo as text into the ringcode field, so these ones should be also included at the very end of the ringcode, IMO. Or, at least, in the comments.</p><p>iR0b0t: maybe one more field is needed for these logos? Mastering Code, Mastering Logos (?), Mastering SID Code, Toolstamp, Mould SID Code, Additional Mould Text?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-07T18:50:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><strong>F1ReB4LL</strong> thank you! I thought it&#039;s&nbsp; much more difficult.</p><p>Another question - what about images and logos in ringcodes? I have discs with this images in rings:<br /><span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/oldfiles/sonopress%20logo2.gif" alt="http://www.edge-online.com/wp-content/uploads/edgeonline/oldfiles/sonopress%20logo2.gif" /></span> <span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.star-force.ru/images/Image/logos/lasercraft.gif" alt="http://www.star-force.ru/images/Image/logos/lasercraft.gif" /></span> <span class="postimg"><img src="http://www.mobygames.com/images/i/13/04/1193604.jpeg" alt="http://www.mobygames.com/images/i/13/04/1193604.jpeg" /></span><br />and also specials chars (stars etc).<br />Should I submit it (and how?) or just ignore it?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sickness]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-07T18:08:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>UL 021689R&lt;TAB&gt;UEP-CD RUSSIA&lt;TAB&gt;www.disc.ru<br />Both IFPIs go to IFPI fields.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-04T19:12:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Can someone, please, explain on this sample how to use tabulators?<br /><a href="http://picsee.net/2013-04-04/18db0b380dee.jpg.html"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://picsee.net/upload/2013-04-04/thumbnail/18db0b380dee.jpg" alt="http://picsee.net/upload/2013-04-04/thumbnail/18db0b380dee.jpg" /></span></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Sickness]]></name>
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			<updated>2013-04-04T10:17:26Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>generally,<br />data side = Layer0<br />cover side = Layer1</p><p>if you examine the ring codes using a magnifying glass they are burned/ached on different sides of the disc.</p><p>mould code from the data side belongs to layer0, label side to layer1.</p><p>ps2/psx/psp discs or generally discs which have a &quot;dummy&quot; ring code should be added using the layer1 line for this information.</p><p>i hope everything is clarified now )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-08-31T15:27:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have generally some problems understanding to add proper ring codes in special cases.<br />Like on Xbox or Xbox360 we have DVD-9 images with 2 layer ring code information, which I understand now that they have to be added as a pair which sounds reasonable. But those discs also got 2 mould codes; one on the data side and one on the label side.<br />How do I add the mould codes? Data side I always added to one of the two layer ring codes, but what to do with the mould code from the label side? I used to use a new row for it as shown here: <a href="http://redump.org/disc/20641/">http://redump.org/disc/20641/</a> but I saw on the other approvals from ir0b0t from today, that he was adding each mould code to each layer ring code information: <a href="http://redump.org/disc/20693/">http://redump.org/disc/20693/</a><br />Using this way you will never see, what is the mould code on data and what is the mould code on the label side. Is that information useful in any way?</p><p>Additionally I would like to know on how to proceed with discs (e.g. some PS2 Platinum discs), that got ring information on the label side. Should I pair this with the ones from data side or should I use a new dedicated line for it, which makes more sense imho. A special case would be a PS2 DVD-9 Platinum with 3 “lines” of ring information, meaning 2 layer ring codes and one ring code from label side.</p><p>Last point… Nintendo Discs. NGC and Wii Discs got a mould code on label side as well. Should I pair them with the data side ring code info or separated; e.g.<br /><a href="http://redump.org/disc/20084/">http://redump.org/disc/20084/</a><br />Again, this will be difficult for Wii DVD-9 discs.</p><p>I would like to get the right understanding for ding the ring information the correct way.</p><p>Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[usurper]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-08-31T15:09:35Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>usurper wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So if there is just&nbsp; one ring info per disc i have to leave the second line empty right?</p></blockquote></div><p>yes )</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-08-26T10:02:40Z</updated>
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