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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pregap question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>That sounds sensible, thanks.</p><p>Hopefully one day soon, I won&#039;t require hand-holding&nbsp; <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jamjam]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-06T09:52:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pregap question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>you can also dump it with isobuster using the from-to way. If you know how the guide works and follow the instructions for dumping the data track, you already know where the pre-gap starts. Then you just dump from there to the the LBA of Track02+1 sector.</p><p>You then need edit the pregap a bit in a hex editor, you need to cut the crap bytes off the start (the ones you used to detect offset) note how many bytes it is. Then in a calculator you do 2352-bytes, the result is how many bytes to cut off the end of the pre-gap.</p><p>It&#039;s easy to figure out than the clonecd way.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Nexy]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-05T09:38:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the information. Will come in handy.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jamjam]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-03T00:05:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Dump the whole disc, then cut the proper bytes range. You need to skip the (1st_track_size_in_bytes + combined_offset_size_in_bytes) and cut the pregap_size_in_bytes (for 00:02:00 it&#039;s 352800 bytes).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-02T21:33:46Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pregap question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>How would I do that? Would&nbsp; I have to dump the whole disc with clonecd, then a track by eac with no pregaps, to find the eac dump in the clonecd dump?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jamjam]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-02T19:35:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jamjam wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Would it be safe to rip audio with no pregaps, then detect the pregaps with a different drive and prepend the pregap?</p></blockquote></div><p>If the combined offset is positive, better dump it with clonecd and cut the pregap from there instead of generating it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-02T17:11:51Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jamjam]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-02T13:32:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Pregap question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s an EAC bug. EAC can&#039;t detect pregaps on an audio track IF the disc has only 2 tracks. Just dump the audio track without detecting the pregap and THEN append the pregap manually.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[RiMMER]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-02T13:19:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Pregap question]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Would it be safe to rip audio with no pregaps, then detect the pregaps with a different drive and prepend the pregap?</p><p>I ask because I finally have a drive with a big enough offset to rip -647 write offset discs, but it seems to be having trouble detecting pregaps on some discs with all 3 methods.</p><p>For example. Trying to verify <a href="http://redump.org/disc/15943/">Actua Soccer 3</a>, but the detected pregap for track 2 is either 0, or some non 2.00 value. Track 2 definitely has a 2.00 pregap, because I&#039;ve searched there for scrambled data and came up with a -647 write offset (and indeed matched the db by prepending a 2.00 pregap). With a different drive, the proper pregap is detected.</p><p>Note: This is for psx discs, so no data in the pregap as far as I am aware if that makes a difference.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jamjam]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-02T12:59:47Z</updated>
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