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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, my bad, it was in PC-88 section there, but it&#039;s a PC port.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-26T17:26:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [PCE] PC Engine dump]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Snake Plissken wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ll treat PC-88MC CD-Roms same as PC Engine games.<br />And yes you are right, there are only 2.5 titles :<br />The one given with PC-88MC2 system.<br />Mirrors.<br />And a reedition of Mirrors (same contents).</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, that&#039;s not entirely true. There should be a total of 5 CD games for the PC88, if I remember correctly.<br />Mirrors, a sample disk named Takarabako, Duel CD, DIOS CD and another title which I don&#039;t remember.<br />As soon as I get home I&#039;ll check and post the full list.<br />The Mirrors reedition is the one done in the late &#039;90s / early &#039;00s ?<br />However, do you have a list of your 88 stuff? I&#039;d like to give it a look. Thanks <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Snake,<br />I think Mirrors is the only CD based game for the PC-88 (and you need to prepare a boot floppy to launch the game).<br />CD Takara-bako is also the one I was talking about (the CDrom given with the PC-88MC2), but it&#039;s not really a game (just a compilation of system demonstrations and a few playable game samples).<br />As far as I know the other ones (including Duel, I have proof of that) are normal 5.25 floppies + pure audio CD.<br />I may be wrong regarding Dios as the CD edition is so rare that I&#039;ve never seen it, but I do think it&#039;s just the normal edtion + audio CD (do you have any clue or proof ? not just &quot;it&#039;s mentioned here&quot;).<br />If you want to include games with separate audio CD, you&#039;ll have more than 5 games at the end.</p><p>I can send you a complete list of my PC-88 games, but it&#039;s not romanized at all.<br />Can you read Japanese ?</p><p>Fireball,<br />I think you&#039;re talking about the Windows version of Relics.<br />There is no CD version for the PC-88 (or I missed the train).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Namida]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-21T05:40:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [PCE] PC Engine dump]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Snake Plissken wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>There should be a total of 5 CD games for the PC88, if I remember correctly.</p></blockquote></div><p>Relics: The Recur of Origin (1986 BothTec) also, at least (was on fmv forum a few months ago).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-19T12:35:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [PCE] PC Engine dump]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;ll treat PC-88MC CD-Roms same as PC Engine games.<br />And yes you are right, there are only 2.5 titles :<br />The one given with PC-88MC2 system.<br />Mirrors.<br />And a reedition of Mirrors (same contents).</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, that&#039;s not entirely true. There should be a total of 5 CD games for the PC88, if I remember correctly.<br />Mirrors, a sample disk named Takarabako, Duel CD, DIOS CD and another title which I don&#039;t remember.<br />As soon as I get home I&#039;ll check and post the full list.<br />The Mirrors reedition is the one done in the late &#039;90s / early &#039;00s ?<br />However, do you have a list of your 88 stuff? I&#039;d like to give it a look. Thanks <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Snake Plissken]]></name>
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			<updated>2011-06-14T08:23:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>If so, we should put a big warning in the forums or just hide the PC Engine section entirely. Otherwise, some people might start buying or dumping stuff, only to be told that they shouldn&#039;t.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-11-14T12:00:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>r09 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So, do I put all my stuff on hold, too?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes. I also have dozens of them, but only one is dumped (for test) - and _there is_ a reason for that, lol.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-11-14T11:25:52Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [PCE] PC Engine dump]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll treat PC-88MC CD-Roms same as PC Engine games.<br />And yes you are right, there are only 2.5 titles :<br />The one given with PC-88MC2 system.<br />Mirrors.<br />And a reedition of Mirrors (same contents).</p><p>Other known titles (a dozen) are floppy based + music only CD.</p><p>PC-98 is another story, they should be treated same as AT/PC CD-Roms.<br />But many of them require a floppy to boot, so my priority is to backup the floppy.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Until we all together find a solution, I concentrate on NEC PC-88 and PC-98 floppy games (using KryoFlux).</p></blockquote></div><p>What&#039;s about CDs for them? PC-88 has a 2 or 3 titles (&quot;Mirrors&quot; and something else), PC-98 has MANY.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-11-14T01:54:08Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, do I put all my stuff on hold, too? Because I&#039;m not going to go through all the hassle of manually cutting and checking the gaps and everything if it&#039;s not recommended to add PCE dumps to the database...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-11-13T21:56:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: [PCE] PC Engine dump]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Of course not&nbsp; <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> <br />I won&#039;t until everyone agrees on how to make a perfect dump.<br />I am okay to spend several months to dump everything properly, but won&#039;t do it twice.<br />And I am not in a hurry anyway (PC Engine games are far from natural death).</p></blockquote></div><p>Agree, the best solution for now.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hoped that my contribution with dev manuals could help, but I got zero feedback.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually, we&#039;re focused on 1:1 dumping now, so the dev manuals won&#039;t be very helpful, I guess. I&#039;ll take a look, though.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Until we all together find a solution, I concentrate on NEC PC-88 and PC-98 floppy games (using KryoFlux).</p></blockquote></div><p>What&#039;s about CDs for them? PC-88 has a 2 or 3 titles (&quot;Mirrors&quot; and something else), PC-98 has MANY.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Namida wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The history of the PC Engine is linked to older NEC Systems, so it&#039;s important to backup them as much as more recent CD games.</p></blockquote></div><p>And, I hope, PC-FX.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-11-13T20:52:22Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Of course not&nbsp; <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /> <br />I won&#039;t until everyone agrees on how to make a perfect dump.<br />I am okay to spend several months to dump everything properly, but won&#039;t do it twice.<br />And I am not in a hurry anyway (PC Engine games are far from natural death).</p><p>I hoped that my contribution with dev manuals could help, but I got zero feedback.</p><p>Until we all together find a solution, I concentrate on NEC PC-88 and PC-98 floppy games (using KryoFlux).<br />I have a large collection of 6000 (yes) games here.<br />All original with boxes and everything.<br />The history of the PC Engine is linked to older NEC Systems, so it&#039;s important to backup them as much as more recent CD games.</p><p>Now regarding PCE Hu cards, I have started redumping all properly.<br />No problem so far.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Justin Bailey wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Namida, did you start to dump anything yet? And if so, is it successful?<br />I&#039;m very curious, because I loved the PC-Engine CD, and I would love to have a complete set one day <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-11-13T13:41:12Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Namida, did you start to dump anything yet? And if so, is it successful?<br />I&#039;m very curious, because I loved the PC-Engine CD, and I would love to have a complete set one day <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Justin Bailey]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-11-12T01:29:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>F1ReB4LL wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocknroms wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You have to check subcodes (clonecd ones are the best) and probably dumping it with a audio trap cd.</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope, no trap cd is needed, just a game and a plextor, but subs are needed and not the clonecd ones, so each dump can take an hour or two.</p></blockquote></div><p>This is new, so which subs?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-10-30T18:14:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocknroms wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You have to check subcodes (clonecd ones are the best) and probably dumping it with a audio trap cd.</p></blockquote></div><p>Nope, no trap cd is needed, just a game and a plextor, but subs are needed and not the clonecd ones, so each dump can take an hour or two.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-10-30T15:53:44Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your answer F1ReB4LL.<br />So I&#039;ll check this forum times to times.<br />Until there is a decent solution, in the mean time I&#039;ll redump HU cards games properly.</p><p>My collection is mainly Japanese commercial titles (I also collect different versions of the same game).<br />But another collector I am in touch with has also a large amount of &quot;not for sale&quot;.<br />He has the Popful Mail Sample disk for sure and many other titles not even listed.<br />Not sure about Lords of Thunder Demo disk (I&#039;ll ask him).</p><p>But anyway my priority is commercial titles.<br />After then, why not dumping other &quot;not for sale&quot; or prototypes.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-10-30T15:01:57Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Welcome.</p><p>PCE CDs dumping is quite complicated at first sight as said by Fireball. You have to check subcodes (clonecd ones are the best) and probably dumping it with a audio trap cd. By the way someone has already to write down a guide, all infos are here and there.<br />If you really want to contribute it&#039;s better you take contact with Fireball on irc or via private msg</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-10-30T14:46:48Z</updated>
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