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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>haynor666 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>So Asus BW-16D1HT is also good for dumping audio CDs and DVDs or just BlueRay discs ?</p></blockquote></div><p>As long as an Audio CD doesn&#039;t have more than 135 sectors worth of data in the pre-gap. Or disc has insane negative offset.</p><p>Then yes, it&#039;s good.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Morlit]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-10-01T09:10:01Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Would be great because obtained old Plextors is very hard these days.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-10-01T06:11:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So Asus BW-16D1HT is also good for dumping audio CDs and DVDs or just BlueRay discs ?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[haynor666]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-09-25T11:15:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Ah, my bad for not reading closely enough. Thanks for the clarification.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-09-18T12:32:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>jakofharts7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi,</p><p>I have previously submitted new dumps with Redumper using my Apple SuperDrive; am I understanding correctly that this drive is no longer supported for both new dumps or verifications?</p></blockquote></div><p>DVD&#039;s can still be dumped with pretty much anything. This just concerns CD&#039;s.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Morlit]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-09-16T18:09:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p><p>I have previously submitted new dumps with Redumper using my Apple SuperDrive; am I understanding correctly that this drive is no longer supported for both new dumps or verifications?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[jakofharts7]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-09-16T18:03:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think it is less about being associated with DIC or about active development, just that DIC does have three important differences with redumper:<br />1. Audio CD splits and write offset detection, which is why we only accept Audio CDs with redumper<br />2. There is a difference in how Redumper and DIC decide to descramble or not descramble certain invalid/unexpected data sectors. This only affects &quot;edge cases&quot;, but it is important as some discs will not match redump hashes as a result (while the dump itself is fine, just post-processing is different). This is a design decision between the two programs, and we have decided to fix upon redumper&#039;s handling of it. DIC has changed how it handles different types of invalid/unexpected sectors over time.<br />3. For the new drives (Mediatek-based blu-ray drives), the leadout sectors are read using a cache read. DIC&#039;s current implementation of the cache read is prone to producing a bad dump, while redumper has fixed it (which is why these new drives have become acceptable for new dumps).</p><p>For Plextor dumps, DIC remains acceptable for dumps, with the above caveats. We therefore recommend using redumper as a &quot;first step&quot;. In an ideal world, everyone could dump with both programs for self-verification, but we cannot force all dumpers to do this.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Deterous]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-08-30T02:42:54Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>AFAIK DIC is also in active development, Sarami usually tries to fix things reported on github.<br />The features it lack should be related to extreme edge cases, otherwise there wouldn&#039;t be hundreds (thousands?) of discs that were dumped with DIC.<br />I don&#039;t have any issues with the fact that you guys prefer redumper over DIC, but only accepting verifications using DIC seems somewhat excessive. You&#039;re making it look like DIC has some sort of issue that makes its dumps faulty.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-08-29T18:27:04Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ssjkakaroto wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is there any good reason to phase out DIC like that on working drives?</p></blockquote></div><p>Redumper has features that DIC lack. Also the former is in active development by a current Redump Moderator, while we aren&#039;t closely associated with DIC&#039;s creator anymore.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Morlit]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-08-27T14:08:13Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Is there any good reason to phase out DIC like that on working drives?</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-08-27T13:44:56Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Understood.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lugamo]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-06-17T15:22:17Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello.&nbsp; To answer your questions:</p><p>1. Are verifications (not new discs) of non-Audio CDs using DiscImageCreator and a good non-Plextor drive still allowed?</p><p><strong>Verifications of non-audio CDs using DIC are only accepted if done with a known eligible Plextor drive.&nbsp; Redumper (build 610 or later) is required for all other drives.&nbsp; Redumper is still preferred and encouraged in all cases.</strong></p><p>2. The change in rules means that verifications of audio CDs are no longer restricted to good Plextor drives? Using only Redumper, of course.</p><p><strong>Yes, Audio CDs can be verified with eligible non-plextor drives (as listed on the wiki: <a href="http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Optical_Disc_Drive_Compatibility:_CD">http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … bility:_CD</a>), if using Redumper build 610 or later.</strong></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-06-17T15:21:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I only have two questions:</p><p>1. Are verifications (not new discs) of non-Audio CDs using DiscImageCreator and a good non-Plextor drive still allowed?<br />2. The change in rules means that verifications of audio CDs are no longer restricted to good Plextor drives? Using only Redumper, of course.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Lugamo]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-06-17T12:40:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Q: I have an Asus / LG drive that is a JB8/JB9 drive and is eligible for cross-flashing to the custom ASUS BW-16D1HT firmware made by Ribshark.&nbsp; Is this eligible for new discs?</p><p>A: <strong>YES.&nbsp; For all intents and purposes, these drives (once flashed with the custom firmware) act just as the Asus BW-16D1HT eligible drives, and are thus eligible for new discs and verifications.&nbsp; More information is found here: <a href="http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Optical_Disc_Drives:_CD_Compatibility_Technical_Details">http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … al_Details</a></strong></p><p>Q: Are verifications (not new discs) of non-Audio CDs using DiscImageCreator and a good non-Plextor drive still allowed?</p><p>A: <strong>Verifications of non-audio CDs using DIC are only accepted if done with a known eligible Plextor drive.&nbsp; Redumper (build 610 or later) is required for all other drives.&nbsp; Redumper is still preferred and encouraged in all cases.</strong></p><p>Q: The change in rules means that verifications of audio CDs are no longer restricted to good Plextor drives? Using only Redumper, of course.</p><p>A: <strong>Yes, Audio CDs can be verified with eligible non-plextor drives (as listed on the wiki: <a href="http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Optical_Disc_Drive_Compatibility:_CD">http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … bility:_CD</a>), if using Redumper build 610 or later.</strong></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sadikyo]]></name>
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			<updated>2025-06-13T12:40:02Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Optical Disc Drives Compatible with Compact Discs (CDs)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hello!&nbsp; This thread is a dedicated thread for questions regarding which optical disc drives are compatible for dumping CDs to redump specifications.&nbsp; </p><p>The most up-to-date list of which drives are eligible, can be found on the wiki: <a href="http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Optical_Disc_Drive_Compatibility:_CD">http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … bility:_CD</a></p><p>The &quot;New Dump &amp; Verification Submissions&quot; section includes drives that are confirmed eligible for both new discs and verifications.</p><p>The &quot;Verification Submissions Only&quot; section includes drives that are eligible for verifications, but not yet for new discs.&nbsp; Over time and with continued testing and research, more drives may become eligible for new discs.&nbsp; Please check the wiki page for the most current list.</p><p><strong>As stated on the wiki, please remember, You must update the drives to the Required Firmware version and dump using Redumper build 610 or later (supported by MPF 3.3.2 or later).</strong></p><p>If you have any questions about the updated lists, or whether your drive is eligible, please ask them here.&nbsp; Thanks!</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2025-06-13T12:39:48Z</updated>
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