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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>okay, nice, there IS your difference <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>please continue the discussion in the other topic now...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:42:35Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>They do indeed differ in size! I&#039;ve checked 2 games of each WAVE; WAVE3 is 77472 sectors, WAVE4 88800 sectors.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:39:14Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>okay, we can put it inside of TRACKER section for now, so only registered users with dumper status have access to it</p><p>and YES to your question (WAVE4 only, WAVE3 is already mentioned)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4357/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:37:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>iR0b0t wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think there is a way how to do that if you still have some discs with WAVE3 &amp; 4 ? We would need to check the visible partition sizes, they may be slowly different in size !?</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes I do, I&#039;ll have a look. By visible partition you mean the partition you see when you put a disc in a non-compatible drive, right? The partition with VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS and the system update?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4723/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:33:37Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Again, I don&#039;t really want to post the guide publicly. Maybe I&#039;m a bit paranoid but this is Xbox 360, not some 20 years old console. It&#039;s nothing personal but posting such info in a public forum can cause serious trouble.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:29:24Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve put the old description online again <a href="http://forum.redump.org/topic/5887/xbox360-dumping/">http://forum.redump.org/topic/5887/xbox360-dumping/</a></p><p>But we need a better layout for that, if you can, post your guide inside, we will then try to find a way for a nice description together&nbsp; <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>EDIT:<br />i have no info now about WAVE5, but i may download L4D2 and get it from there.</p><p>EDIT2:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>amarok wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>One question that remains is how to distinguish WAVE3 from WAVE4</p></blockquote></div><p>I think there is a way how to do that if you still have some discs with WAVE3 &amp; 4 ? We would need to check the visible partition sizes, they may be slowly different in size !?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4357/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:22:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I actually have written a &quot;guide&quot; (or rather some crude instructions <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" />) and sent it to several people via PM. I&#039;m reluctant to put it here publicly... You know how much trouble this can cause in our beautiful country -.-</p><p>One question that remains is how to distinguish WAVE3 from WAVE4. Supposedly there&#039;s also a WAVE5 (with Left4Dead 2 being the first game to use it). Do you by chance have any further information?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4723/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:12:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>amarok wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is the XBC method better?</p></blockquote></div><p>not really, better use isobuster method.</p><p>EDIT:<br />if you want to write a dumping guide please do so, i have no time for that, i may correct or put some additional info afterward.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4357/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T16:02:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>amarok wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You probably haven&#039;t replaced the garbage sectors... Try to extract the game again and replace the byte range from 223182848 to 231571456 with 00s in a hex editor for WAVE2/3/4 and WAVE1 (108976-113071) dumps (see the Comments section of the dump to find out which WAVE the disc is). In case of WAVE1 (18128-22223) dumps, replace 37126144 to 45514752. You should get a match then.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, I&#039;ll try it later.</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>If you have further questions or want to dump games that aren&#039;t in the DB already I can send you further instructions.</p></blockquote></div><p>Please do. I have quite a few games that aren&#039;t in the database and I&#039;ll probably sell some of them in the near future, so I want to get them dumped before that.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[r09]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T15:45:44Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>No, always IsoBuster. You should know, 95% of my knowledge of 360 dumping comes from you <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p><p>Is the XBC method better?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4723/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T15:41:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>amarok, are you going the non-isobuster way? i guess you are using XBC (?)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4357/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T15:31:33Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/23763/#p23763</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://forum.redump.org/post/23762/#p23762" />
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>You probably haven&#039;t replaced the garbage sectors... Try to extract the game again and replace the byte range from 223182848 to 231571456 with 00s in a hex editor for WAVE2/3/4 and WAVE1 (108976-113071) dumps (see the Comments section of the dump to find out which WAVE the disc is). In case of WAVE1 (18128-22223) dumps, replace 37126144 to 45514752. You should get a match then.</p><p>If you have further questions or want to dump games that aren&#039;t in the DB already I can send you further instructions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4723/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T15:26:24Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/23762/#p23762</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;d like to know the dumping method with the SH-D162D, too. I tried it on my own but I couldn&#039;t get a match with the existing dumps, I must have been doing something wrong.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[r09]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4460/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T14:57:01Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/23761/#p23761</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ahh, firmware limitations (and chip set differences)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4357/</uri>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T14:15:36Z</updated>
			<id>http://forum.redump.org/post/23760/#p23760</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: what drive should I buy for xbox360 dumping ?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, no, I said &quot;sets apart&quot;, not &quot;take apart&quot;. I mean, what is different about these drives so they can read these discs most other drives obviously can&#039;t read?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[amarok]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-24T14:11:26Z</updated>
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