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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>SS ones don&#039;t usually contain a file system (only links from the first mode1 track), so I don&#039;t think they can be affected. At least, I&#039;ve already seen many and the dump always matches the dump from another drive.</p><p>Guess, you can try to extract all the sectors with cdtoimg_d8 and descramble them in software.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T14:35:55Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Audio trap disc + EAC should be the safest method. That way you can apply the offset correction on the fly and descramble the whole track.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T11:14:08Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yeah this is a known problem.. plextors try to correct errors automatically for some reason (or at least that&#039;s the effect), so if you have a disc like Actua Soccer with hundreds/thousands of these sectors you won&#039;t be able to match it. Like themabus said, dumping scrambled and then descrambling can be a solution, but otherwise you can just stick to another drive for these discs. This is also why verifying on 2 drives is always recommended.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jackal]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T10:48:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ok, thank you very much velocity</p><p>i think i&#039;ll stick this topic for now<br />since there could be quite a lot people with Plextor drives<br />hence affected with this issue</p><p>worst thing is that, since it&#039;s masking erroneous data,<br />theoretically there could be CDs in DB that pass as good on e.g. CDMage, <br />i.e. look absolutely ordinary, but actually were affected</p><p>though AFAIR all of such CDs i checked still had some mastering artifacts present<br />as does yours</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T07:59:38Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks much. I haven&#039;t done this before.</p><p>I checked the headers that were previously nulled and they were intact in this read.</p><p>I don&#039;t seem to get the luxury of error detection in this raw read mode, so it didn&#039;t perfectly match up, but at least I know now that the Plextor was actually damaging the data rather than &quot;getting 350 good sectors&quot;.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T07:03:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>since CD-ROM decoding is skipped, all of those methods would give scrambled output<br />so data track should be passed through descrambler manually afterwards<br /><a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?q1mbksntoje">http://www.mediafire.com/?q1mbksntoje</a><br />in this pack you will find &#039;remove&#039; &amp; &#039;unscramble&#039; programs<br />so after you have output from cdtoimg<br />assuming CD offset is +2 and Plextor&#039;s +30, resulting in +32 or 0x80<br />and &#039;rawdata&#039; was the name of cdtoimg output file<br />you could try following:<br />remove -size=$80 -direction=left trash rawdata<br />unscramble rawdata</p><p>resulting file &#039;rawdata.scr&#039; will have 128 bytes missing from the end<br />(corresponging to offset)<br />but should match to image extracted with other drives up to that point, so<br />fc /b rawdata.scr &quot;Track 01.bin&quot; |more<br />should result in:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Comparing files rawdata.scr and TRACK 01.BIN<br />FC: TRACK 01.BIN longer than rawdata.scr</p></blockquote></div><p>it&#039;s a strange coincidence with motherboards and i would use IDE2USB converter too<br />but i&#039;ve just tried it on older Gigabyte GA-8I915ME with almost clean XP SP3 (through USB)<br />and AFAIR this problem initially occured when drive was connected to internal IDE controller<br />yet symptoms remain - must be Plextor&#039;s firmware after all<br />but still it would be really great if you could check this CD on a different system - to be absolutely certain</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T06:04:21Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response. I&#039;m grateful for your help, as this had me utterly perplexed.</p><p>cdtoimg seems to be outputting garbage data, even reading at 1x :\</p><p>How can I read from the buffer? I can try swapping later, but I&#039;d prefer something that didn&#039;t involve manually ejecting the tray.</p><p>My motherboard is coincidentally an ASUS P5Q Pro, but I&#039;m using the drive through an IDE&gt;USB interface.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T05:26:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: PLEXTOR users Beware: possible FW bug affecting Mode2 tracks (PSX, SS)]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>hi velocity37</p><p>thank you for reporting this</p><p>i had this <a href="http://forum.redump.org/topic/4060/strange-subheaders-with-plextor/">same problem</a> with Plextor Premium in the past<br />and i thought it&#039;s a specific of my model<br />so i guess this is issue affecting Plextor drives in general then</p><p><a href="http://vigi.dremora.com/cdtoimg.rar">reading CD with D8 command</a>, swapping audio CD or fetching data directly from buffer <br />should yield correct output</p><p>edit:<br />what motherboard do you have, btw?<br />mine is ASUSTeK P5QL-E</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2010-02-15T04:31:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So, I&#039;m trying to dump the Interactive CD Sampler Pack Volume 2.</p><p>I dumped the disc on my GH20NS15 and LH-20A1H with matching results. I also matched this to an image I found on the Internet. The disc has 1,916 sector errors, all in the ASOCCER speech files, like so:<br /><a href="http://i48.tinypic.com/2cxeo9z.png"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i48.tinypic.com/2cxeo9z_th.png" alt="http://i48.tinypic.com/2cxeo9z_th.png" /></span></a></p><p>So far so good. Matching in two drives + an internet source = good dump, right?</p><p>The problem I have is that my Plextor PX-760A gives a different result. More specifically, it dumps with fewer sector errors. When I dumped twice yesterday (without recycling), the resulting dumps had only 1,556 sector errors and matched. Today I dumped the disc twice again in the Plextor, recycling the drive each time, and came up with non-matching dumps with 1,557 sector errors.</p><p>So my question is, what can I do from here? If I didn&#039;t have the Plextor to begin with, I&#039;d have reasonable grounds to call a good dump. The Plextor isn&#039;t giving off consistent results, making it not a reliable indicator, but it still stands that it&#039;s getting 350 good sectors that my other drives can&#039;t.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>GH20NS15 (1,916 sector errors):
SHA-160     : 63F828EC7BB0A8317E10E934D434560475DBE8BB
MD5         : ACFA22E8B9018B16B3BB82009A3EC886
CRC-32      : 1A138846

LH-20A1H (1,916 sector errors):
SHA-160     : 63F828EC7BB0A8317E10E934D434560475DBE8BB
MD5         : ACFA22E8B9018B16B3BB82009A3EC886
CRC-32      : 1A138846

Web-sourced track 1 with last sector fixed with psxt001z.exe (1,916 sector errors):
SHA-160     : 63F828EC7BB0A8317E10E934D434560475DBE8BB
MD5         : ACFA22E8B9018B16B3BB82009A3EC886
CRC-32      : 1A138846

Plextor PX-760A two dumps with no recycle inbetween (1,556 sector errors):
SHA-160     : 4450E22CA8739BC713A3C5C39F7F50024D7063F0
MD5         : AC9EF9042F722C909398C803283EAA40
CRC-32      : E7D8181A

Plextor PX-760A dump 1/2 with recycle (1,557 sector errors):
SHA-160     : 1A533DAE98B15B2168911949463FB94ECFBE4E44
MD5         : EB7CD639F58C212B5B4B28A93B4F4D79
CRC-32      : C6F9D9FB

Plextor PX-760 dump 2/2 with recycle (1,557 sector errors):
SHA-160     : 14D652DB6272DA981B4463971F8AEAB9E9244EFD
MD5         : 94D5819ACE0E280B58A32EF4486117F5
CRC-32      : F34DA670</code></pre></div><p>For the sake of curiosity, I dumped a length of sectors which differed in the two drives and looked at them in HexCmp2. The only differences between the two drives is that the GH+LH have 5 bytes of data in each sector, while the dumps from the PX do not, like so:<br /><a href="http://i46.tinypic.com/2wdzl8n.png"><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i46.tinypic.com/2wdzl8n_th.png" alt="http://i46.tinypic.com/2wdzl8n_th.png" /></span></a></p><p>This 5 byte string goes like this:<br />01 0C 64 04 01<br />01 0D 64 04 01<br />...<br />01 1F 64 04 01</p><p>After which it resets to 0C and starts again.</p>]]></content>
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