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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I added these 3 Bonus Audio CD</p><p>-----------------</p><p>Title: Burning Rangers (Bonus CD)<br />Alt.Title: バーニングレンジャー<br />Disc-ID: GS-9174P-02140-1F V<br />Serial: GS-9174</p><p>System: Sega Saturn <br />Media: Mini Audio CD <br />Region: Japan&nbsp; &nbsp;<br />Edition: Original<br />Manufacter: 1998 Sega<br />Number of tracks: 3<br />Write Offset: +0</p><p>-----------------</p><p>Title: Grandia (Bonus CD)<br />Alt.Title: グランディア<br />Disc-ID: GAM-SS-01 E<br />Serial: T-4507G</p><p>System: Sega Saturn <br />Media: Mini Audio CD <br />Region: Japan&nbsp; &nbsp;<br />Edition: Original<br />Manufacter: 1997 Game Arts / Esp<br />Number of tracks: 5<br />Write Offset: +0</p><p>-----------------</p><p>Title: Thunder Force V (Bonus CD)<br />Alt.Title: サンダーフォースV<br />Disc-ID: EJ TES001 (PRESS IN SINGAPORE) (232929)<br />Serial: T-1812G</p><p>System: Sega Saturn <br />Media: Audio CD <br />Region: Japan<br />Edition: Special Pack<br />Manufacter: 1997 Technosoft<br />Number of tracks: 11<br />Write Offset: +0</p><p>-----------------</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocknroms]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-26T15:46:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>OST CDs for previous dumps should also be dumped, then. Like this one - <a href="http://forum.redump.org/viewtopic.php?id=2114">http://forum.redump.org/viewtopic.php?id=2114</a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-26T11:41:12Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>thank you very much!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-26T04:43:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for answer, Dremora! And for big news!</p><p>I&#039;ll add within minutes some bonus audio CD to the wip!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocknroms]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-24T16:51:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocknroms wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I have at least 3 games with bonus audio CD, are they needed and how I have to dump them?</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, although some may disagree, I thinkk that each bonus Audio CD is part of the game and should be dumped too.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocknroms wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Pregap of first track is 2.00+0.37. How can I find offset, if there&#039;s one?</p></blockquote></div><p>There is no way to detect an offset if disc has no data tracks, so they should with 0 write offset.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rocknroms wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And file format: pcm as games or wav?</p></blockquote></div><p>PCM.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dremora]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-21T19:13:15Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>ok<br />it&#039;s up to Dremora though</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-02T05:51:40Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ll post in a separate thread or in this one the other Bonus Audio CD while I find/dump them, then if someone want to add them...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocknroms]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-02T05:27:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>would be great, i&#039;d be happy to add them too. they&#039;re seldom and perhaps obscure.<br />tho it&#039;s impossible to determine offset directly without data track maybe sometimes there would be similarities to game cd or data would exceed gaps for certain amount of samples.<br />but we could indeed dump most cds compensating drive offset, like you did. <br />and for cds that would not fit into this frame we could dump from first meaningful sample or until the last one (shifting frame to cover all data).<br />and &#039;offset&#039; field would represent any changes: 0 - drive offset cancellation; -x,+x - shift, so people could verify these cds just like everything else.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-05-01T20:49:45Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[About Bonus Audio CD]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have at least 3 games with bonus audio CD, are they needed and how I have to dump them?</p><p>For example, this is the cue for Burning Rangers bonus audio CD:</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>FILE &quot;Track01.wav&quot; WAVE
  TRACK 01 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:00:37
FILE &quot;Track02.wav&quot; WAVE
  TRACK 02 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74
FILE &quot;Track03.wav&quot; WAVE
  TRACK 03 AUDIO
    INDEX 00 00:00:00
    INDEX 01 00:01:74</code></pre></div><p>Pregap of first track is 2.00+0.37. How can I find offset, if there&#039;s one?<br />And file format: pcm as games or wav?</p><p>Here is a try dumping with perfect rip with write offset = 0 and pcm format.</p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>©2006   H &amp; H   s o f t w e r x.
PerfectRip v1.00 a27 log. 24/04/2008 20.12.28

Type    . Time     . Description
------- + -------- + -----------
Info    | 20.12.28 | Current device: PLEXTOR DVDR   PX-760A  1.07
Info    | 20.12.28 | Reported CD read speed (kbytes/s): 7056(40x)
Info    | 20.12.28 | Current read error recovery setting: mode: 00h retry count: 10
Info    | 20.12.28 | Setting of read error recovery to normal with 3 retries was successful.
Info    | 20.12.28 | Detecting subcode/C2 pointers priority..
Info    | 20.12.28 | Detecting and correcting subchannel offset..
Info    | 20.12.32 | Subcode/C2 priority is: main+C2+sub.
Info    | 20.12.32 | Subchannel sector offset: 0
Info    | 20.12.32 | Detection finished.
Info    | 20.12.32 | Main channel read offset correction: -120 bytes (-30 samples)
Info    | 20.12.32 | Main channel write offset correction: 0 bytes (0 samples)
Info    | 20.12.32 | Subchannel offset correction: 0 sectors
Info    | 20.12.32 | C2 error pointers offset correction: -120 bits
Error   | 20.12.32 | Read CD-TEXT command failed!
Info    | 20.12.32 | Reading Media Catalog Number...
Info    | 20.12.32 | MCN: 0000000000000
Info    | 20.12.32 | Reading International Standard Recording Code...
Info    | 20.12.33 | ISRC(track 1) not encoded
Info    | 20.12.34 | ISRC(track 2) not encoded
Info    | 20.12.34 | ISRC(track 3) not encoded
Info    | 20.12.34 | Pregap: 00:00.00 to 00:00.36 (000000 to 000036), duration: 00:00.37 (000037)
Info    | 20.12.35 | Trk 01: 00:00.37 to 04:00.74 (000037 to 018074), duration: 04:00.38 (018038)
Info    | 20.12.35 | Trk 01 format type is CDDA
Info    | 20.12.35 | Index found: 010101000000000002371C9C
Info    | 20.13.00 | Pause found: 010200000173000401011FF9
Info    | 20.13.00 | Current copyright flag !DCP kept
Info    | 20.13.00 | Trk 02: 04:01.00 to 08:38.11 (018075 to 038861), duration: 04:37.12 (020787)
Info    | 20.13.00 | Trk 02 format type is CDDA
Info    | 20.13.00 | Index found: 01020100000000040300989D
Info    | 20.13.23 | Pause found: 010300000173000838130CC5
Info    | 20.13.24 | Current copyright flag !DCP kept
Info    | 20.13.24 | Trk 03: 08:38.12 to 12:53.74 (038862 to 058049), duration: 04:15.63 (019188)
Info    | 20.13.24 | Trk 03 format type is CDDA
Info    | 20.13.24 | Index found: 010301000000000840126C33
Info    | 20.13.45 | Current copyright flag !DCP kept
Info    | 20.13.45 | OL: 12:54.00 to 12:54.00 (058050 to 058050), duration: 00:00.01 (000001)
Info    | 20.13.45 | Setting back of saved read error recovery parameters was successful.
Info    | 20.13.46 | Total corrupt Q subcode blocks: 63
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 00 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 01 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 02 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Trk 03 corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Total corrupt symbols (C2 pointers): 0
Info    | 20.13.46 | Reading process completed successfully.</code></pre></div><p>CMpro dat<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>rom ( name &quot;Burning Rangers (J) (Bonus CD) (Track 1).bin&quot; size 42161952 crc f4f739cf md5 9a9ee6d474a619ee573e018c0be907bb sha1 381703c1f89af9179f83701feac8f98d51f6eef7 )
rom ( name &quot;Burning Rangers (J) (Bonus CD) (Track 2).bin&quot; size 48891024 crc 8ba57b13 md5 970fee0f427c9406fc67147509d20b0f sha1 48cb37bb03a8903bec8dfe749d9fb87d8e425a86 )
rom ( name &quot;Burning Rangers (J) (Bonus CD) (Track 3).bin&quot; size 45480624 crc eb5e2556 md5 6fc4e2e2155a084777a0af1a40c071f6 sha1 2d12c79d4d15a799cd06436e21af393b8b69f716 )</code></pre></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Rocknroms]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-04-24T18:19:48Z</updated>
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