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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s pointless as it documented. Another piece of information like the write offset. Also there are people that believe that there shouldn&#039;t be any sector errors (I was one of them) and they might dump a game that it&#039;s the database get the same checksum but do everything they can to fix those errors screw up the image, sectors don&#039;t match with the original and then post that as a good dump but if it was documented oh these errors are known not trying to pull something here and go along with it. I don&#039;t know, that&#039;s my thought anyway.</p><p>xenogears, I&#039;m not the most knowledgeable about this but I think mastering errors are on every disc of the same run so there could be thousands of discs with those errors and who knows if they didn&#039;t make the same mistake for them all. Also like my Easter Bunny&#039;s Big Day, I believe Digital Press said they only run it once if there was any mastering errors waiting for a disc without them would never happen. fortunately it didn&#039;t though someone that knows more can fix any misinformation I gave if I did.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepsidrinker]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-18T18:46:33Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I also think it&#039;s pointless, but for the reason that a good dump can be verified anyway, regardless of mastering errors.. if a dumpers doesn&#039;t succeed in getting the same checksum, he can just write a post in the forums.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jackal]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-18T18:22:48Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pepsidrinker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think maybe we should include mastering errors in the comment section. If we include them then people that would know them so when verify and checking a dump and find errors they don&#039;t think someone is trying to pull something with a faulty dump as it&#039;s documented.</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know if it&#039;s the right idea...I think that the &quot;faulty&quot; discs should be left alone and wait for an appropriate copy of the game from another dumper. The mastering errors should be very rare and the probability that a game copy has them is very low. It is pointless to submit something that will be replaced by the error free dump IMHO.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4164/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-18T18:12:42Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Answered for me, was added.</p><p>And thanks for the command.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepsidrinker]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T21:46:29Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pepsidrinker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yes, I always dump it twice, the checksums match before and after the low level error was fixed with psxt001z.</p></blockquote></div><p>This error is caused by many drives in the last sectors of discs without EDC. Mastering errors may also be low level.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>pepsidrinker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>EDIT: Is there a way to use psxt001z to find if there is EDC or not without the fix command?</p></blockquote></div><p>psxt001z track01.bin</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dremora]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T21:40:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I always dump it twice, the checksums match before and after the low level error was fixed with psxt001z.</p><p>EDIT: Is there a way to use psxt001z to find if there is EDC or not without the fix command?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepsidrinker]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T21:15:53Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>pepsidrinker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What about the one in the WIP?</p></blockquote></div><p>Have you dumped it twice?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dremora]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T20:47:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Sounds good, I will go over my dumps and find any I only think there is a couple. What about the one in the WIP?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepsidrinker]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T19:06:18Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I agree. CDmage should be used for checking for errors (since psxt001z doesn&#039;t check ECC, and in the next versions I&#039;ll remove scanning function at all with the exception of postgap error detection).</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Dremora]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T18:57:43Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Should we include mastering errors in the comment section?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe we should include mastering errors in the comment section. If we include them then people that would know them so when verify and checking a dump and find errors they don&#039;t think someone is trying to pull something with a faulty dump as it&#039;s documented.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[pepsidrinker]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-17T18:38:12Z</updated>
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