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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>3rd edition i think.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[p_star]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T15:52:27Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>p_star wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>xenogears , your disk is not GS-9198. it&#039;s GS-9169 !!!<br />Date track of GS-9198 cannot coincide with GS-9169, even because has other version - 1.004.<br />Inner ring number of GS-9198 CD1 is : GS-9198P-02243A<br />But ring number of my GS-9169 CD1 is not coincide with your number <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Has copied CD 3, it has coincided with yours.</p></blockquote></div><p>I re-checked and the box, every disc is labeled GS-9198!<br />Inner ring serials are indeed starting with GS-9169. Very strage!<br />Program version is 1.002 (I looked at sector 0 with Isobuster)<br />One question: where can I see the EXE date in Saturn games?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4164/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T15:09:30Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>xenogears , your disk is not GS-9198. it&#039;s GS-9169 !!!<br />Date track of GS-9198 cannot coincide with GS-9169, even because has other version - 1.004.<br />Inner ring number of GS-9198 CD1 is : GS-9198P-02243A<br />But ring number of my GS-9169 CD1 is not coincide with your number <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />Has copied CD 3, it has coincided with yours.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[p_star]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T14:37:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I have both versions <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> Give me a few time, I shall lay out results...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[p_star]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/5/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T14:03:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>SORRY but it seems that I was wrong...<br />My dumps of disc 1 and disc 2 match with the dumps of p_star<br />I simply did the wrong comparisons with the hash info...</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4164/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T09:13:03Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I made a few researches about Sakura Taisen 2 and I found out a possible explanation for the different dumps.</p><p>p_star dumped the version with serial GS-9169 which is the Shokai Tokutenban as in Sakakore Database</p><p><a href="http://www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-game,,GS-9169,,Sakura-Taisen-2-Kimi-Shini-Tamou-Kotonakare-Shokai-Tokutenban-JPN.html">http://www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-gam … n-JPN.html</a></p><p>My version has serial number GS-9198 and is the regular version</p><p><a href="http://www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-game,,GS-9198,,Sakura-Taisen-2-Kimi-Shini-Tamou-Kotonakare-JPN.html">http://www.satakore.com/sega-saturn-gam … e-JPN.html</a></p><p>both SKUs have 3 discs, I don&#039;t know why p_star did not dump Disc 3.</p><p>Furthermore yesterday I swapped disc 2 with 3 and I discovered that disc 2 matches with the dump of p_star.<br />The mystery remains for disc 1 which is different.<br />I&#039;ll submit dumps info in the Dumps forum.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T08:43:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>it&#039;s Vigi&#039;s guide <img src="http://forum.redump.org/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/2174/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-02T03:52:01Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Themabus, you are GREAT!!<br />I followed your guide step by step and the result is the same as perfectrip!!<br />The dump was good after all!!<br />I got the same result with every drive I have here at home (yes, it was a great amount of work!)</p><p>Here are the details of the new track02 created with EAC:</p><p>Name:&nbsp; &nbsp; newtrack02.bin<br />Size:&nbsp; &nbsp; 4092480<br />CRC32:&nbsp; &nbsp; a49c5592<br />MD5:&nbsp; &nbsp; 79c5b164aa1a305eb41b259fd6a2d12a<br />SHA1:&nbsp; &nbsp; 4a97dfc5f6f5f24b94e9a26393b1e25733b0909c</p><p>To recap, the dump is surely good; I dumped 3 times (with different drives too) the discs with the traditional method and 1 time with perfectrip with the PX-760A. Everytime the size/CRC32/MD5/SHA1 of the tracks are always the same!<br />I still have to figure out how to check the EXE date and why p_star dump is so different.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T21:31:57Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gigadeath wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Vigi, the dump is not good, PerfectRip itself says it. And the log says clearly that some sectors were replaced because they couldn&#039;t be read. I don&#039;t think having 0 corrupt C2 pointers is the only indication of a good dump.</p></blockquote></div><p>Those messages only meant that 5 sectors in the pregap, which were empty to begin with, were replaced with empty contents..</p><p>I&#039;ve had this error plenty of times before and my dumps always matched EAC&#039;s checksums and other dump&#039;s checksums.. the log says &#039;completed succesfully&#039; and there are no C2 errors, so everything should be ok. And I agree with xenogear&#039;s latest post.. the disc is clearly different and there are no dumping issues.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jackal]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T21:16:36Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>from old guide:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Including Track 02 pregap<br />In the step &#039;fixing the pregap&#039; we removed the track02 pregap from the end of the data track.</p><p>We already determined length of the pregap. For instance, 2 seconds pregap was 352800 bytes. The amount of bytes that was determined now has to be added to the beginning of Track02.</p><p>We can do this by inserting the required amount of (empty) bytes with a hex editor or by using the psxt001z tool:</p><p>Open up command prompt, go to the folder of the track images. Make sure a recent version of psxt001z.exe (see the beginning of this guide for a link) is in the same folder. Use the following command:</p><p>psxt001z --gen pregap.bin SIZE</p><p>&#039;SIZE&#039; has to be replaced with the amount of bytes that was determined in the step &#039;fixing the pregap&#039;. In most cases this amount will be 352800 (for a 2 sec gap), so this would give us the following command:</p><p>psxt001z --gen pregap.bin 352800</p><br /><p>To add the pregap to Track02, use the following command:</p><p>copy /b pregap.bin+track02.bin newtrack02.bin</p><br /><br /><p>The file newtrack02.bin should now consist of pregap and audio track.</p><p>This is the Track02 file that we want to use for preservation.</p><p>Now we are almost ready, head on to the &#039;Final steps&#039;.</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[themabus]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T21:01:46Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>The disc 2 is perfectly dumped by perfectrip and both data and audio tracks are different than the dump submitted by p_star.<br />Data track of disc 1 is also different from the data track submitted by p_star and furthermore perfectrip result match the result of the traditional Isobuster method.<br />For the audio track of disc 1 I don&#039;t know, I&#039;ll try to dump it with the traditional method and verify if it match.</p><p>I&#039;m still waiting for a tip on how I can generate the correct pregap of 2 second and manually attach it to the audio track extracted with EAC (there is a well known bug that prevents 2 tracks discs to be correctly dumped in EAC with the automated procedure)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T20:31:54Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>xenogears wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I really don&#039;t know. There are not corrupt C2 pointers but in the end perfectrip sends out a message similar to &quot;sorry, the dump was not perfect&quot;<br />On the other hand the data track is the same I got with the traditional method. Soon we&#039;ll see for the audio track.</p></blockquote></div><p>Vigi, the dump is not good, PerfectRip itself says it. And the log says clearly that some sectors were replaced because they couldn&#039;t be read. I don&#039;t think having 0 corrupt C2 pointers is the only indication of a good dump.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[gigadeath]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/2860/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T20:11:51Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gigadeath wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually I don&#039;t think it&#039;s always true...</p><p>The replaced sectors warning in the log is a sure sign of something wasn&#039;t right.</p></blockquote></div><div class="quotebox"><cite>xenogears wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I really don&#039;t know. There are not corrupt C2 pointers but in the end perfectrip sends out a message similar to &quot;sorry, the dump was not perfect&quot;<br />On the other hand the data track is the same I got with the traditional method. Soon we&#039;ll see for the audio track.</p></blockquote></div><p>The dump is good.. it should be added.. It&#039;s just strange that it&#039;s supposedly the same version, but with different data+audio tracks.. maybe p_star can supply some more info about his dump (disc scans, whatever)</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Jackal]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T19:13:05Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gigadeath wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Vigi wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Hi.. all I can say is that the errors that you got are normal and don&#039;t affect the dump.. as long as there are 0 Total corrupt symbols (C2 pointers), everything is alright.</p></blockquote></div><p>Actually I don&#039;t think it&#039;s always true...</p><p>The replaced sectors warning in the log is a sure sign of something wasn&#039;t right.</p></blockquote></div><p>I really don&#039;t know. There are not corrupt C2 pointers but in the end perfectrip sends out a message similar to &quot;sorry, the dump was not perfect&quot;<br />On the other hand the data track is the same I got with the traditional method. Soon we&#039;ll see for the audio track.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
				<uri>http://forum.redump.org/user/4164/</uri>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T19:09:16Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: My first experience with Perfectrip, advices needed!]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>gigadeath wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Try EAC. It&#039;s very possible that PerfectRip has issues with some discs.</p><p>Dump track 2 with &quot;Leave out gaps&quot; option enabled (instead of &quot;Append gap to next track&quot;), then use psxt001z to create a 2:00 sec pregap, then attach it to gapless track 2.</p></blockquote></div><p>Ok, but how can I generate the correct pregap with psxt001z?<br />How can I attack the pregap to the Track2 manually?<br />Thanks in advance</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[xenogears]]></name>
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			<updated>2008-02-01T19:07:05Z</updated>
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