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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Acorn Archimedes CD</p><p>Any more info on this system / disc list?</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[user7]]></name>
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			<updated>2018-02-28T03:02:40Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>F1ReB4LL wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Those are multisessional</p></blockquote></div><p>I think so too.<br /><a href="https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f122922824">https://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f122922824</a><br />There is the enhanced CD logo in the picture.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>user7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I haven&#039;t found any info on this and the wiki guide isn&#039;t for DIC.</p></blockquote></div><p>ReadMe.txt<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>* Ripping Guide for GD-ROM (The high density area)
** Preparation
 create the audio trap disc in advance.
 (a disc with a hacked TOC of 99 mins audio, burn it with CloneCD or Alcohol 52/120%).
   http://www.mediafire.com/?2nygv2oyzzz

** Method 1 (Other tools)
 http://forum.redump.org/topic/2620/dreamcastnaomi-gdrom-dumping-instructions/

** Method 2 (Other tools)
 http://forum.redump.org/topic/9436/new-dreamcast-dumping-program-test-please/

** Method 3
1. insert the audio trap disc to a supported drive.
2. run below. (stop spinning disc)
   DiscImageCreator.exe stop [DriveLetter]
3. use a pin to press the escape eject button, so the tray will eject (or remove
   the drive cover).
4. insert the gdrom and gently push the tray back (or put the drive cover back on).
5. run below. (start rippping gdrom)
   DiscImageCreator.exe gd [DriveLetter] foo.bin [DriveSpeed(0-72)]</code></pre></div><p>I confirmed this with TS-H353A, but jhmiller couldn&#039;t confirm by dic method though he used the same drive and firmware. I don&#039;t know the reason.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sarami]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-12-28T05:48:53Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>sarami wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a href="https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/142002024001">https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/142002024001</a></p></blockquote></div><p>Interesting. I&#039;ve seen it for more than 7000 yen on yahoo.jp aucs.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>user7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sarami if that disc is only 180 yen and has cheap shipping buy it, test it / dump it, and I&#039;ll paypal you a refund... assuming the format is relevant to redump.org</p></blockquote></div><p>Those are multisessional, iR0b0t said he could add the support, but he needs a proper description of those REM SESSION fields/structure.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-12-28T05:28:06Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>So would these properly dump in DIC with a Plextor?</p><p>Also do GDRoms properly dump in DIC with a Plextor? I haven&#039;t found any info on this and the wiki guide isn&#039;t for DIC.</p><p>Sarami if that disc is only 180 yen and has cheap shipping buy it, test it / dump it, and I&#039;ll paypal you a refund... assuming the format is relevant to redump.org</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-12-28T01:30:31Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/142002024001">https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/142002024001</a><br /><a href="https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/220005208001">https://www.suruga-ya.jp/product/detail/220005208001</a><br />These discs are not so expensive.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[sarami]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-12-28T01:27:00Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>MIL-CDs are very uncommon and pretty expensive.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[F1ReB4LL]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-12-27T12:35:39Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Mil-CD - <a href="https://segaretro.org/Mil-CD">https://segaretro.org/Mil-CD</a></p><p>Interesting...</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-12-26T22:44:29Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>user7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>And a few more failed disc systems:</p><p>[*]LaserActive (which uses Laser Discs - part analog and part digital, I assume we would preserve the digital data for these here? Dumping might be super difficult lol!).[/*]</p></blockquote></div><p>There are also RDI Halcyon and Palcom PX-7. And MSX also has VHD releases.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>user7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>[*]Tao iKTV CD - just a karaoke system, no games.[/*]</p></blockquote></div><p>It has its own line of CDs, needs to be examined. If those are simple Video CDs - no interest, but if they have data tracks with some kind of a program to be run - should be dumped.</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-11-19T22:07:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>user7 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>only floppy games for Sharp X68000</p></blockquote></div><p>see<br /></p><div class="codebox"><pre><code>https://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=605&amp;search_word=x68000&amp;inStock=On&amp;restrict[]=media=CD</code></pre></div>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-10-26T03:38:33Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I was told by F1ReB4LL to add them, so I guess he knows more.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-10-25T21:02:42Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>But neither have CD based games do they? I could only find Karaoke for Tao and only floppy games for Sharp X68000</p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-10-25T20:57:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Both were already available for new disc submissions.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[iR0b0t]]></name>
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			<updated>2017-10-25T20:48:20Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I came across two more systems on an old thread on redump forum, although I DON&#039;T think they are applicable to redump, may as well mention them in case someone knows more:</p><ul><li><p>Tao iKTV CD - just a karaoke system, no games.</p></li><li><p>Sharp X68000 CD - A floppy disc system, some games were released with Audio CDs as bonus discs, these should fall into the Audio CD category.</p></li></ul>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-10-25T18:41:27Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>@ SONIC3D: Quite a rabbit hole to journey down. I&#039;m adding into our miss lists, but any backup of the digital data will require someone with special knowledge to come on board.</p><p>Kiss-Site<br />Thanks for the links sarami. The Kiss-Site looks like yet another console that is more-than-less in Japanese hands if it will ever be preserved. I don&#039;t see it being a high-priority obviously, but it&#039;s been noted that it exists in our miss list. I don&#039;t speak good enough moon to build out a miss list quite yet, but I linked to the resources on the wiki page. <a href="http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title=Tomy_Kiss-Site_Missing_Discs#Resources">http://wiki.redump.org/index.php?title= … #Resources</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-10-24T19:58:09Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>kiss-site<br /><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20020606031854/http://www.tomy.co.jp/kiss_site/index.htm">https://web.archive.org/web/20020606031 … /index.htm</a><br /><a href="http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2000/08/08/04.html">http://news.mynavi.jp/news/2000/08/08/04.html</a><br /><a href="https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/20010118/toy02.htm">https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2 … /toy02.htm</a></p><p>list<br /><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20010804215431/http://www.tomy.co.jp:80/kiss_site/music_list/index.htm">https://web.archive.org/web/20010804215 … /index.htm</a></p><p>suruga-ya<br /><a href="https://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?category=5&amp;search_word=KISS-SITE&amp;cookie=true&amp;inStock=On">https://www.suruga-ya.jp/search?categor … inStock=On</a></p><p>amazon<br /><a href="https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=sr_tn_i_1?fst=as%3Aoff&amp;rh=k%3Akiss-site%2Ci%3Atoys&amp;keywords=kiss-site&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1508872948">https://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=sr_tn_i_ … 1508872948</a></p>]]></content>
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			<updated>2017-10-24T19:36:56Z</updated>
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